Thank-you Charlie, .Richard Georgerian
Compliance Engineer HID Global From: Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 12:49 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 Ed 3 2020 + A11 : 2020 for GPSD Richard My understanding is that CENELEC have just voted and decided to extend the DOW of EN 62368-1:2020 to 2024-07-06 As an aside, when selecting standards for CE/UKCA marking (as opposed to IEC CB scheme or similar), it is the manufacturer's responsibility to decide what version of the standard to test and not the labs - the lab may of course advise, but it remains the manufacturer's responsibility and the rationale should be documented in their risk assessment Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Richard Georgerian <richa...@mesanetworks.net <mailto:richa...@mesanetworks.net> > Sent: 21 November 2022 18:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1 Ed 3 2020 + A11 : 2020 for GPSD Greeting everyone, To continue this thread - At the CENELEC website: https://standards.cencenelec.eu/dyn/www/f?p=CENELEC:110:::::FSP_PROJECT,FSP_ ORG_ID:66779,1257189 <https://standards.cencenelec.eu/dyn/www/f?p=CENELEC:110:::::FSP_PROJECT,FSP _ORG_ID:66779,1257189&cs=11C3AC4F515A1C6989CA85C0ED445BC0B> &cs=11C3AC4F515A1C6989CA85C0ED445BC0B, it has the schedule for the adoption of EN IEC 62368-1:2020/A11:2020 3rd Edition. However, it is not in the latest OJ, only EN 62368-1:2014. My estimation, is that test labs will use EN IEC 62368-1:2020/A11:2020 after January 6, 2023 in their test reports. And EN 62368-1:2014 remains valid until the product changes such that the safety report is to be updated with an alternate construction. Not sure how this will affect current products using EN 62368-1:2014 2nd Edition after January 6, 2023. There is still indications that the 3rd Edition will not be adopted and Europe will go straight to the 4th Edition. My presumption is that when the EN 62368-1:2014 is superseded by EN IEC 62368-1:2020/A11:2020, but the OJ has not been updated, there is going to be a some confusion. In short, if test labs are going to test to EN IEC 62368-1:2020/A11:2020 3rd Edition and EN 62368-1:2014 2nd Edition is still the listed in the OJ and EN IEC 62368-1:2020/A11:2020 3rd Edition is not listed in the OJ, do we need to write a risk assessment? The EU DoC would still use EN 62368-1:2014 2nd Edition and also have EN IEC 62368-1:2020/A11:2020 3rd Edition. Can the safety report also state in addition to meeting EN IEC 62368-1:2020/A11:2020 3rd Edition, the product still complies to EN 62368-1:2014 2nd Edition. Having both in the test report and certificate will be for those countries that have not yet adopted 3rd Edition and still want to see a valid report/certificate with EN 62368-1:2014 2nd Edition. Is there a URL to find the Implementing Decisions regarding EN 62368-1? As always, guidance and assistance is most appreciated. Thank-you, .Richard Georgerian Compliance Engineer HID Global From: Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com <mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 3:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 Ed 3 2020 + A11 : 2020 for GPSD Dan Just a reminder that the Summary Lists are not "formal listings" - there have been mistakes in some of them, so whilst they are useful, it is important to check the referenced Implementing Decisions Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Dan Roman <00000d75e04ed751-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:00000d75e04ed751-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > Sent: 01 September 2022 20:46 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 Ed 3 2020 + A11 : 2020 for GPSD Hi Bostjan, That is the older one without the new standards added recently. But yes, I am looking for that but the up to date version! Dan From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2022 1:11 PM To: Dan Roman <danp...@verizon.net <mailto:danp...@verizon.net> >; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 Ed 3 2020 + A11 : 2020 for GPSD Hi Dan Are you looking for this? Best regards Bostjan SIQ Ljubljana https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/43968/attachments/1/translations/en/ renditions/native Dobite Outlook za Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> _____ From: Dan Roman <00000d75e04ed751-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:00000d75e04ed751-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 6:34:33 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 Ed 3 2020 + A11 : 2020 for GPSD CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organisation. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Anyone know if (and where) the consolidated GPSD list of harmonized standards is published? When I look all I see is an amendment listing the changes and not an updated downloadable PDF with all current standards listed. Dan From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:28 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 Ed 3 2020 + A11 : 2020 for GPSD Hi Gert, Unlike LVD & RED, there is no transitional date in GPSD HS table. If there is no transitional period, how can the manufacturers handle the goods in the warehouse of the market and manufacturing plants to upgrade to new standards? Besides, what are the arrangements of goods in the water and recent imported goods at customs and market surveillance with old standard compliance? Regards, Scott On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 at 01:03, Gert Gremmen <g.grem...@cetest.nl <mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl> > wrote: Hi Scott The OJ itself lists the required dates in he table of publication. Gert Gremmen On 30-8-2022 15:41, Scott Xe wrote: On 16 Aug, the captioned HS was listed in OJ. Does it replace the previous version immediately or is there a transitional period? 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