Hi Cecil,

The regulation states "the possibility to acquire radio equipment without any 
charging device and without cables". It isn't an issue of what would 
technically work. It's what the European Parliament wants. The device must have 
a USB connector, and the customer must have the option of purchasing the device 
without a power supply or cable.

Best regards,
Ted Eckert
Microsoft

The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my 
employer.


From: cgitt...@rochester.rr.com <cgitt...@rochester.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2023 6:59 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] USB Type C requirements for the EU

Hi Ted,

Thank you very much for your response.

Ear buds come with a charge case that is USB C.  Is that OK?

And if so, why can't a USB C cable to magnet pins work?

As long as a standard USB C charger works, isn't that the intent?

Best Regards.

Cecil

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Sent: Monday February 13 2023 8:57:19AM
Subject: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] USB Type C requirements for the EU
Hi Cecil,

The device must have a USB connector for charging. You must provide the 
customer the option of buying the product without either an external power 
supply or charging cable. The intent of the regulation is that consumers should 
be able to buy new devices that can be charged with their existing USB power 
supplies and cables.

Best regards,
Ted Eckert
Microsoft

The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my 
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<cgitt...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:cgitt...@rochester.rr.com>>
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Hi Charlie,

Thank you very much for your response.

Does this mean a USB Type C connector has to be on the device or can a cable 
that has USB C with let's say a magnetic connector on the device end be used?

Thanks!

Best Regards

Cecil

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Cecil

Directive (EU) 
2022/2380<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur-lex.europa.eu%2Feli%2Fdir%2F2022%2F2380&data=05%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C520c1294eea2460f05a008db0dd2e3d9%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638118972405759520%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Eyw6WKa9CH4L687s3NvMWRTXyTw59JMjb9dF6MaNE%2Fk%3D&reserved=0>
 amending the RED with the "common charger" published on 7th December 2022

Applies to all products in scope placed on the market after 28 December 2024 
except for laptops, where the date is 28 April 2026

EU Directive and Regulations apply to each and every individual product, so 
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Charlie

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From: cgitt...@rochester.rr.com<mailto:cgitt...@rochester.rr.com> 
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Sent: 13 February 2023 01:13
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Subject: [PSES] USB Type C requirements for the EU

What is the implementation date for USB Type C that products need to comply 
with the Directive?

Is there any exemption or grandfathering for current products that are used 
already in the market?

I appreciate any input.

Thank you.

Cecil Gittens
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