Hello John. Amazon’s authority in rejecting the document was Amazon’s own rules; however their representatives (three so far) could not point to any published rule in their compliance portal that identified a duration of validity. Effectively, it was past date because they said so.
It’s terribly frustrating. John John E. Riutta, MA, MBA, FLS I Product Development and Product Compliance Manager I jriu...@celestron.com<mailto:jriu...@celestron.com> I 323.446.1076 CELESTRON, LLC. 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Do any of these standards, or the test certificates associated with them, specify a validity period or an expiry date? Did Amazon cite an authority for their rejection? On 2024-03-05 18:51, John Riutta wrote: Hello all, I’m having a bit of bother with Amazon.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__Amazon.com&d=DwQDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=VCyn8WVANatxoVh6C1UViULPDA-EK_TwOt4iLIyJXt8&m=jHM3TRYMTSHK0XGvXlpHUIeS4qK3vfQH-H5luhaatXOUyE6HZ859hSKsk8tFdl39&s=uFb5gucGmEe-8-DeiNxFlCW2L8KvkcJY-iMkCelwtgk&e=> at the moment. For a small rechargeable battery-containing product they are requiring one of the following in order for them to sell the product on their Canadian platform: 1. CAN/CSA C22.2 No. 62133-2:20; 2. IEC 62133:2012 or IEC 62133-2:2017; 3. UL 62133:2017 or UL 62133-2:2020. The challenge is that they rejected the one I sent as being long past the testing date. However I have not been able to find any citation as to how often testing under any of these standards must be repeated in order to be valid. I seek the collected wisdom of the group please. Best regards, John John E. Riutta, MA, MBA, FLS I Product Development and Product Compliance Manager I jriu...@celestron.com<mailto:jriu...@celestron.com> I 323.446.1076 CELESTRON, LLC. 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