On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:

> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:07:08 -0600
> From: Sebastian Kuzminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>     <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] hal servo questions
> 
> "Peter C. Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What is happening is this:
>
> Thanks for the explanation, that helped a lot, I think I got most of it.
> :-)
>
>
>> To solve your problem there are a couple of things to try:
>>
>> 1. Live with it and offset you PDM
>
> As you say, it actually works ok with the deadband.  I tuned the PID loop
> and I get positional errors of up to 0.067 revolutions (25 degrees),
> this is with no load on the motor shaft.  With a 1:1 coupling from the
> motor shaft to a 20 tpi leadscrew that gives me +-0.004" positioning
> precision (not counting mechanical slop, backlash, etc).
>

You should be able to do a lot better, but if your PWM is crude (3 bits), a 
higher servo sample rate will improve things, 'dithering' the drive between 
PWM values.


>
>> 2. Use PWM instead of PDM (If the software PWM rate is not too low). The
>> ripple will be higher, but the average current in the 0 to 50% duty cycle
>> range will be will be higher as well.
>
> I'll give PWM a try.  My pulse-generating thread runs at 20 KHz currently,
> does a PWM carrier frequency of 2 KHz sound reasonable?  That'd give me
> 10 levels of power.

I will definately have some ripple and will sing...

>
>
>> 3. Setup your HBridges to use 'Slow decay mode' if possible. This usually
>> means that the bottom 2 switch elements are turned on in the off part of the
>> PWM cycle, (shorting out the motor) causing the stored energy on the motor
>> inductance to be 'saved' between PWM cycles. This results in lower ripple, 
>> and
>> more linear current versus duty cycle.
>
> I thought "both bottom switches on" was active braking.  How does
> this help?


Think of it as maintaining the current at a constant level in the off period.
It _WILL_ brake the motor abruptly if you stop the PWM.


>
> I don't get it, but I'll give it a try too.  :-)
>
>
>> 4. Use an HBridge with current feedback
>
> Hm, I need to read up on motor drivers...
>
>
> Thanks for all your advice, I appreciate it!
>
>
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> Sebastian Kuzminsky
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