Emory,

I changed the jumpers on my HobbyCNC board.

I then recalculated the number of steps to move one unit (one inch or 
one millimeter) then adjusted the INPUT_SCALE value in the EMC2 ini file 
to that amount.

Basically going from full stepping to 1/4 stepping will quadruple the 
value for INPUT_SCALE, but if your lead screws are in inches and you are 
using EMC2 in mm, or vice versa, I would recalculate the INPUT_SCALE 
value from scratch to avoid any rounding problems.

Andy

Emory Smith wrote:
> Andrew,
> What did you do to switch to 1/4 step mode.
> Was it within EMC or something on your controller?
> Is there a FAQ?
> I'd like to try that.
> 
> Thanks,
> Emory
> 
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Andrew Ayre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> John Kasunich wrote:
>>  > Andrew Ayre wrote:
>>  >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>  >>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> From: John Kasunich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>  >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Newbie Help Needed - Losing Steps
>>  >>> Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:46:09 -0400
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Andrew Ayre wrote:
>>  >>>> Hi,
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>> I have a gantry style machine with three axis. The X and Y axis have 
>> the
>>  >>>> same motor and the same nut and lead screw on each). I am testing the
>>  >>>> machine using manually entered commands into AXIS such as:
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>>    G01 F80 X1
>>  >>>>    G01 F80 X0
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>> When manipulating one axis at a time (no cutting, just moving around) I
>>  >>>> have found that I lose steps at different feed rates for each axis.
>>  >>>>
>>  >>>>    X - lose steps at 148 ipm
>>  >>>>    Y - lose steps at 81 ipm
>>  >>>>
>>  >>> All those calculations are for theoretical limits to the step rate.  But
>>  >>> the reason you are losing steps is much less theoretical.  You are
>>  >>> probably running out of torque.  When step motors go faster, the amount
>>  >>> of torque that they can produce drops.  When the load needs more torque
>>  >>> than the motor can make, you lose steps.
>>  >>>
>>  >>> It does seem odd that the X can go faster than Y.  X has to move more
>>  >>> weight (I assume that X is the gantry, and Y moves a much smaller weight
>>  >>> across the gantry).  But something is making Y require more torque than
>>  >>> X, so Y loses steps first.
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Regards,
>>  >>>
>>  >>> John Kasunich
>>  >>>
>>  >>> It looks to me like Andy is using full step motion.  Probably what is 
>> happening is that he's hitting resonant frequencies that are a bit different 
>> for each axis.  The extra weight of X might even work to advantage to help 
>> it cross that zero torque spot.
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Rayh
>>  >>>
>>  >> Hi Ray, yes I'm using full stepping. My next step was to switch to 1/4
>>  >> or 1/8 microstepping. So could that actually help? I know that the
>>  >> speeds overall will be reduced of course.
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  > Micro-stepping will lower the theoretical speed, but as you've already
>>  > calculated, the theoretical speed is pretty fast right now.  On the good
>>  > side, micro-stepping will mostly likely increase the torque somewhat,
>>  > especially at certain speeds where full-stepping causes resonance and
>>  > dramatically lowers torque.
>>  >
>>  > Regards,
>>  >
>>  > John Kasunich
>>
>>  Update - I switched to 1/4 stepping mode. Movement is smoother and
>>  quieter. The top speed of each axis is now limited by the speed of the
>>  real time system on my PC, with no stalls.
>>
>>  Thanks for the help. :)
>>
>>
>>  Andy
>>
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