the spindle / tooling arent a draw bar like on a bridgeport, they have
pullstuds in the back, which get grabbed by some kind of mechanism inside
the head, im still curious to see how it goes about doing it, I know its
spring tensioned and hydraulically released.

the amps look identical at a glance, im on lunch break so im tryin to keep
it quick.  the motors are all directly connected to the amps, thats why i
thought to send the quadrature to both emc and the amp.

there are aluminum strips along the ways, i havnt seen any connectors on
them where they would be scales, but it's a possibility.  If i go to the
town where the machine is I'll try to remember to get the camera and some
pictures.

Thanks again for all the help, its REALLY appreciated
Jim

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Kirk Wallace
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 11:43 -0400, Jim Coleman wrote:
> ... snip
> > for the tooling and the spindle, im pretty sure its CAT 40.  I've
> > always just heard it refered to as '40 taper' and it's the same
> > holders (minus pullstuds) that the fadals and the haas VF2,4, and 5
> > use at the shop.
>
> Your machine has a threaded draw bar?
>
> > the motors and amps are sanyo denki BL-super
> > From the machine's manual the motor and amp combinations are..
> > X motor 20BM090MXP42 amp 27BA030FTH1 torque cont./stall 90/200 kg-cm
> > Y motor 20BM090MXP41 amp 27BA030FTH1 torque cont./stall 90/200 kg-cm
> > Z motor 20BM220MBP41 amp 27BA050FXTH2 torque cont./stall 200/340 kg-cm
> > all max 1500 RPM, overspeed detection speed at 2400 rpm
> > I've googled around but couldnt find any info on these, i have what
> > looks like a datasheet, but it's in japanese, so i sure cant make
> > anything of it.  If anyone happens across some docs i'd love to see
> > them.
>
> Here is the only Sanyo link I have found useful for my P5's.
>
> http://www.motiononline.com/NewFiles/download.html
> http://www.motiononline.com/index.html
>
> These are similar to your drives and motors?
> http://www.circuitcnc.co.uk/details.aspx?ProductID=96#
> http://www.circuitcnc.co.uk/details.aspx?ProductID=95#
> http://www.circuitcnc.co.uk/details.aspx?ProductID=111#
> http://www.circuitcnc.co.uk/details.aspx?ProductID=112#
>
> It looks like the amps are really controllers which have some sort of
> motion control in them. So the motor feed back goes back to the
> controller and not EMC, similar to step/direction controllers except it
> seems you have velocity inputs.
>
> Here are links to a related thread:
>
> http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,2303.0.html
> http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,2303.10.html
>
> The amp diagrams shown in the thread don't seem to match the picture of
> your amps above though. Without real data on this system, it's hard to
> make any conclusions on how it works.
>
> --
> Kirk Wallace (California, USA
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/
> Hardinge HNC/EMC CNC lathe,
> Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
> Zubal lathe conversion pending
> Craftsman AA 109 restoration
> Shizuoka ST-N/EMC CNC)
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