On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 12:47 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 March 2010, Ries van Twisk wrote:
> >On Mar 23, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Sven Wesley wrote:
> >>> On Mar 23, 2010, at 1:41 AM, a...@conceptmachinery.com wrote:
> >>>> Hi
> >>>> I bought Rhino and importantly it is only 3D surface modeling
> >>>> software
> >>>> where nurbs is a part. NURBS let you grab point and drag it and it
> >>>> change
> >>>> whole surface. It is interesting option.
> >
> >Do you guys use any of the Parametric plugins for Rhino?
> >Honestly I don't see why a non parametric 3D modeler is any useful in
> >the industry
> >where you need to make more then just a part, I am not talking about
> >people doing this for a hobby or the one-offs
> >
> And that's me.  No way in hell can I justify the cost of something like 
> rhino, for one quick piece of wood or metal.  I could easily empty the SS 
> replenished bank account if I bought all the stuff that has been mentioned 
> here.
> 
> >>> Blender is a powerful modeling app that also supports nurbs.  It
> >>> has the
> >>> added benefit of being free.
> >>> (http://www.blender.org/)
> >>>
> But with a steep learning curve, at least for me.
> 
> >>> -Tom
> >>
> >> I wouldn't say "only" a 3D surface modeller. It is that, yes, but
> >> it's very
> >> powerful and capable of more than free modelling.
> >> I have Blender as well, not as user friendly though. If someone
> >> writes a
> >> CAM-plugin for Blender then there will be something very very useful.
> >
> >I tried using blender, but could never really be productive on it,
> >it might have something to do with the way I think, because I have seen
> >some awesome project done with it, most non-mechanical though...
> >
> >What I need in a design tool is parametric, sketcher in 3D and 2D,
> >associative and that my g-code get's updated when my model is changed,
> >or that my 2D drawings get updated when my 3D model changes, or the
> >other way around even.
> >
> >I know we all say that the software is expensive, and it is! But given
> >you might use
> >it for let's say 3 years then even for a $10K software tool you pay
> >277 a month,
> >that's less then the daily rate for a single guy. If you make anything
> >on a professional level, then it's worth the investment and it's
> >better to use something
> >that has some learning curve, but will save you time in the long run,
> >then use software that is much cheaper, but forces you to repeat
> >yourself.
> >
> >Ries


Unless one is a a really serious hobbyist or well heeled a cad/cam
package is a real investment. 

The only part of Synergy that is free is the 2.5D drawing. If you want
2.5D CAM then cough up $250. 
If you want wire-frame then add more money. 
If you want 3D (parasolids) add more money. 

Believe me, weber systems does not make their money off of cad/cam
sales; their real money made off support and custom work. 

But where else can you get 2.5 D plus wire-frame plus solids plus
variational (for a family of parts) plus lathe and edm including CAM for
something about 1.2K$. Now that assumes you can make it run without
support after the initial support period. 

I exports its native .syn files plus Iges and I think both dxf and dwg
although they may only import dxf and dwg. 

Come on Bob speak up here. 

Compare that with other 3D packages + CAM and it looks pretty good. 

Dave

 


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