On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 07:24:44PM -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 22:08 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > 
> > For voltage and phases you are correct as shown.
> > 
> > Currents however will need toroid type current transformers installed so 
> > the motor lead is threaded through the toroid core.  You get a voltage out 
> > that is proportional to the current in the motor lead.
> > 
> 
> Dooh (hits forehead). A transformer in series with a motor lead would be
> a bad idea (unless designed to be there). Small toroidal's are easy and
> plentiful, but another time sink.

Kirk, the current transformers I have on PCBs in my junkbox all have one
turn on the primary. A clamp-meter similarly has a split toroid, and
clips around existing wiring (one turn), for non-contact AC current
measurement.

About 30 secondary turns on the toroid is what I typically see. Fiddling
with one of them some time ago, I found it easier to see current
waveform than measure absolute current. (But that was in a switch-mode
application) DO NOT LEAVE THE SECONDARY OPEN CIRCUIT while in use. The
size of the secondary load resistor (RL) dictates how big a voltage
(proportional to current) you get. Infinity is not a good value. ;-)

The one-turn primary presents only milliohms of DC resistance, but
Z = RL/K^2 , where K = turns ratio. (i.e. the normal impedance
transformation expected) So 10 ohm & 30 turns gives 11 milliohms in the
current path. (IIRC)

Instrumentation current transformers may have more turns, and they
therefore can suffer more readily from electrical breakdown if the load
resistor is absent.

For voltage waveform observation, I like the idea of several AC-output
plugpacks (wallwarts) from the junkbox. (My old filament transformers
are inconveniently heavy, and too far back in the junkbox to be easily
exhumed. :-)

Erik

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