On Monday, January 02, 2012 04:53:35 PM Dave did opine:

> On 1/2/2012 2:58 PM, andy pugh wrote:
> > On 2 January 2012 19:32, gene heskett<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >> On Monday, January 02, 2012 02:31:38 PM andy pugh did opine:
> >>> However, there is no reason not to use the built-in video with that
> >>> card, it works fine.
> >> 
> >> And this is the foxcon board?
> > 
> > No, this is the Intel BOXD525MW (but I think that "BOX" might just
> > mean it is in a box)
> 
> FYI - the Intel "Box" CPU set usually come with a CPU fan, Sata Cables,
> the rear cutout that pops in the chassis - otherwise known as an I/O
> shield and installation instructions.    Since the MW525 does not need a
> CPU fan, there is no fan included.
> The "Box" is really designed for retail sales so it looks nice etc, in
> contrast to a bulk package.    Also the warranty is sometimes
> different.    The Box MW525 has a 3 year warranty.  I'm not sure about
> the bulk packed Motherboards.
> 
> The MW525 from Intel is a known entity.   I have no idea how well the
> Foxcon 525 board compares.  I've assembled several MW525 PCs this past
> year.    The cost difference between the Foxconn 525 and the Intel may
> be $10.
> 
> The Intel MW525 boots just fine off an external USB DVD/CDRW drive.
> 
> Dave
 
One thing seems to be that there is nobody at home, at any of the contact 
us phone numbers today, so until I can verify how much of a premium I'll 
ave to pay to swap the foxconn board for the real thing remains to be 
discovered.

Back to shoveling snow intermittently. :(

Humm, providence maybe.  I called Jim, who did have a computer repair shop 
up in Jane Lew, but closed it after 2 years because there wasn't enough 
work coming in to pay him a buck an hour on average, so they loaded up what 
inventory they had & took it home on June 30th last year.  Some of that 
inventory included 5 or 6 Ultra 400 PSU's, so I told him I'd be up and get 
one as soon as he got home from the funeral parlor, the father of one of 
the sales guys at the tv station had died.  But as I was wrapping up that 
conversation my phone started the call waiting beeps.  It was Mike, 2 doors 
up the street, offering to give me the innards out of an old compaq he was 
writing off on this year tax returns.

So I grabbed a meter and went up, tossed the mobo out on a wooden board, 
dug enough out of the box to power it up and measured the PSU out as 5.11 
volts on a drive cable.  Stayed & had a cuppa, then slip-slid my way back 
to the house, box under arm, no charge, got everything but the hard drive & 
case.  It was a 1Ghz athlon, single 256meg memory stick.  So my problem may 
be solved till this next psu fades away.  I'll probably see if that memory 
will fit in an HP I have that has the same CPU but keeps running out of 
memory because that is all that is in it.  That box is into swap in 5 
minutes from a cold boot just playing 'intertoobs' music so I haven't tried 
to use the "goat" for anything useful.  Goat seems an apt name, as its 100% 
sacrificial, and if it was a cat, would long since be out of lives. :-P

Not that I'm going to putz with it tonight, but tomorrow maybe because to 
get at it, I'll have to prop open the door to make room for a small ladder 
to reach it.  I see the latency-test is still running, showing 21.something 
u-secs now after about 1.5 hours.  With that PSU showing at 4.92.  I would 
dearly love to find the reference in those things & be able to jiggle it up 
.2 volts at a time as they age.  But then they couldn't sell me another 
every 13 months, so those Chinese will see to it that that isn't going to 
happen, not even if I bet the farm on it.  But even the 'dead' ones are 
excellent src's for power hexfet's when you manage to blow the one in the 
mills head housing.

Besides, the streets have a nice coat of black ice under a 1/4" covering of 
snow & that says I'd better stay home anyway.  My Dee is feeling some 
better, so I don't think I'll have to run out and get her anything yet 
tonight.

And she, knowing the streets are bad, wouldn't send me out unless she was 
out of smoke, that would do it. ;)

Thanks Dave & have a better 2012.

Cheers, Gene
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