On Friday, January 13, 2012 12:19:12 PM Mark Wendt did opine:
> On 01/12/2012 04:17 PM, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 12, 2012 03:53:27 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine:
> >> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:43:08 PM andy pugh did opine:
> >>>>> On 12 January 2012 07:22, gene heskett<ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote:
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>>> Have you tried DesignSpark under Wine?
> >>>>> Though gEDA might be a better bet, being native Linux. (I have
> >>>>> never tried it)
> >>>>
> >>>> I have looked at gEDA and it shows promise, but it needs to grow
> >>>> some std method of sizing the parts to an agreed upon std
> >>>> measurement method. When the parts library is 100% contributor
> >>>> generated, no two parts seem to be drawn to the same scale or
> >>>> orientation.
> >>>
> >>> If one can use it often enough to keep current, maybe once a week, I
> >>> find gEDA much easier to use than Eagle. Eagle has an extensive
> >>> library, but I suspect that is because it takes a PhD in Eagle to
> >>> create them, so an interested party made sure the popular symbols
> >>> were available. To me, gEDA makes symbol creation easy enough to
> >>> just make them as needed. I do miss having rules of thumb for
> >>> pleasing and useful symbols, but I've been able to make mine good
> >>> enough for who they are for. Plus one can place and rotate the
> >>> symbol and connected text on the fly, which from my experience
> >>> Eagle doesn't do.
> >>>
> >>> I haven't made any circuit board g-code using gEDA, so I can't speak
> >>> to that.
> >>
> >> Like you I tried several circuit board design tools and settled on
> >> gEDA suite Easy to learn, very configurable, and lots of symbols at
> >> www.gedasymbols.org I have made a few boards, some using isolation
> >> engraving and some (I really like) using my mill to hold a sharpie
> >> pen to draw the traces and remove the excess copper with hcl and
> >> hydrogen peroxide Then wash off the ink with a solvent
> >> Cheap and I get the hcl just around the corner
> >> Also you can flip the board over and use the mill and sharpie the
> >> draw the silk mask
> >>
> >> Richard
> >
> > I'll take a look, it's complete kit is installing on that shiny new
> > 250Gb drive now.
> >
> > And still no opto-interrupter devices with a logic output. But
> > generally I get the impression that its much improved. IIRC it was
> > gerbview that had the export in various formats option before, but I
> > don't find that option now. Memory, tain't always what it once was.
> > :(
> >
> > Cheers, Gene
>
> Has anybody tried the Visolate software or pcb2gcode utilities?
> Visolate is a gui java program for converting gerber files to gcode and
> pcb2gcode is a command line utility that does the same.
>
How does one run this visolate-2.1.6.jar then? The usual "java -jar
visolate-2.1.6.jar" without a valid input filename doesn't output any
obvious clues to a java newbie:
gene@coyote pcb2gcode-1.1.4]$ java -jar /usr/share/java/visolate-2.1.6.jar
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
javax/media/j3d/WakeupCriterion
at visolate.Visolate.<init>(Visolate.java:66)
at visolate.Visolate.<init>(Visolate.java:61)
at visolate.Main.main(Main.java:65)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
javax.media.j3d.WakeupCriterion
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:202)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
... 3 more
I have read most of the CSAIL site at MIT without finding a sample
invocation of this tool. I like the idea, and that could carve a working
board in 10% of the time of any other method & with a serious reduction in
worn tooling too, but why the apparent secrecy about how to actually use
it? Boggles my mind...
Thanks Mark.
Cheers, Gene
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