Hi Seb, I can appreciate your comments.
I think I brought up the money thing first. I never thought that anything as formalized as a treasurer was required. My feeling... If you put up a server on your own dime and you keep the build bot alive and I use it, and I see a donate link on the website , I will probably toss you a couple of bucks. When your Paypal account gets sufficiently full you can turn off the link... or not. I really don't care either way. Its up to you what you do with the $. I appreciate you keeping things running. That is what I was thinking of. No untangling required. Dave On 1/25/2012 3:53 PM, s...@highlab.com wrote: > I am not a board member or anything official, I'm just some guy who hacks on > linuxcnc sometimes. I speak for myself. > > I've been following this thread since the start, and there is a disconnect > between what people are asking for and how i think this project works. > > People are saying thing like: > > "What's the road map of features for future releases?" > > "What features should/shouldn't I work on?" > > "Who holds the Treasurer position?" > > "How do you assign tasks to developers?" > > These kinds of questions make no sense in my mental model of the project. > > This is not a company and I am not an employee, so nobody gets to tell me > what to do. I'm a volunteer and I do this because I like our community, and > machining, and programming. I'm doing this for fun, in my spare time that I > could be doing other fun things of my own choosing. > > If someone wants to make a roadmap, or a list of features they want, or a 5 > year plan of what they think everyone should work on, that's fine by me - but > it doesnt really affect me, and it doesnt change what I'll do tonight after i > tuck my kids into bed. > > I have a list of things *I* want to do to the linuxcnc project, but I'd never > dream of telling anyone to work on them. It's not my place to tell folks > what to do. > > I do not publicise my todo list because I'm afraid that doing so might make > people impatient for the tasks to be finished, and the pressure of that > public expectation would diminish my enjoyment of doing the work. I have > enough schedule and pressure in my day job and other parts of my life, I dont > need any more! That's not what I'm here for! > > > I have never read the "Board of Directors Terms of Service", and until people > in this thread started talking about it I didnt realize we had one. I will > not go read it now, because I don't care. To me, this project works well, > and legalese bores me. > > > I run my part of our infrastructure on my dime because I happen to have the > equipment and skills and interest to do it, and i think it makes our shared > project better. I have no interest in trying to untangle the expense of it > from the rest of my household expenses and requesting a reimbursement from a > project treasurer. I dont know if we even *have* a treasurer, and if we do i > dont want to spend my open-source hacking hour talking about bills. I'd > rather just hack. > > > That's where I'm coming from. > > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Sven Wesley"<svenne.d...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, Jan 25, 2012 05:12 > Subject: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors > To:<mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil>, "Enhanced Machine Controller > (EMC)"<emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > >> >> Andy, >> >> Understandable. The paypal link could be set up so that it could be >> turned on when funds are needed and turned off when the funding is met. >> The treasurer would have to stay on top of that though. >> >> Mark >> >> >> > This must be the most wide spread discussion in ages at this mailing list, > forums, lists, bills, credits... Doesn't matter, it just shows that even > the silent people can speak (which also is a Chinese saying). :) > > If you guys think that the internal forum works well so be it. To me it's > not better at all than (for example) cnczone or the mailing list. One board > all questions, and that makes the mailing list superior. And unfortunately, > there were many broken links to the forum before. Cnczone being commercial? > There's no secret I'm a moderator at the zone. There's no secret a page > with 140 000 members need better servers than "our" page. Of course there > will be banners. Stating that it's a bad idea because the site might go > pay-to-view based - will not happen. Why on Earth would you bite your own > feeder? IF that happens, I'm the first guy to leave the site. We're lucky > that someone supports the LinuxCNC (formerly known as EMC2) community with > CPU and storage. So who will pay it otherwise? A paypal account seems to be > a good idea - at first. How should the board/community handle the scenario > when a "supportive company" transfers $ 100 000 and after a short while > demands to get their requirements sorted out? Who will be responsible for > the book keeping? What should happen if there's more money than needed? > What should happen when there's LESS money than neeeded?.. > > My first opinion is still not changed, there are too many communication > channels for a small (in a community perspective) project. it seems some of > you are pretty gnarly when it comes to commercial fundings (you're not > using Youtube, are you?..). Then kill the mailing list. That's commercially > based service, even more than the zone. > > There's not a single response on Roadmap planning nor black/white listing - > suggestions that _really_ affects the evolution of the software. Not even > from other developers... > > Regards, > Sven > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. 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