On 13 February 2012 21:38, gene heskett <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Monday, February 13, 2012 02:24:49 PM Roland Jollivet did opine:
>
> > ..snip
> >
> > I would imagine... that the oxide layer is way way thinner than a micron
> > in thickness, and while tough as you say, in climb milling the cutter
> > tip will hit the metal and with the eggshell effect, simply push past
> > the oxide layer.
>
> In electronics, my specialty, we have a tendency to rate this oxide film by
> its voltage withstand capability, which in the above mentioned .001 seconds
> is about 40 volts.  This insulation BTW is perfect, and is considered to be
> degraded if a single electron succeeds in penetrating it.  Leave it out in
> the 19% oxygen air for a few weeks, or help it along with a hydroxide bath
> and it can exceed 400 volts.  That is quite a bit more than a micron
> although I don't have a thickness/voltage conversion table handy ATM.
>
> > I think that if this was a general problem, it would receive more alerts
> > in industry, although some shopfitting sections which are already
> > anodized, do take their toll on the saw blades.
>
> That has been noted, I've nicely rounded the teeth of several Starret
> hacksaw blades on the stuff myself, on one particular piece even breaking
> the teeth completely off!  So I tend to steer clear of colored alu as raw
> material. :)
>
> > Regards
> > Roland
>
>
But.. you can take almost any piece aluminium lying around (not anodised),
lightly touch it with the blunt rounded side of two crocodile clips, and
you'll measure a few milliohms. What happened to the oxide layer? It's so
thin that a few mN of pressure tore through it.

Regards
Roland
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