Ss On Mar 6, 2012 3:10 AM, <emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
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Re: Why APT (Kent A. Reed) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:04:56 +0200 > From: Andrew <parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com> > Subject: [Emc-users] HAL scope > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: > <CAJZ=BTMKFk=em-nqfmover16y-qhnjuh9srufnuns_fwqea...@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hello, > > Anybody knows why halscope 'open data file' menu item is inactive? Is there > any trick to open saved data? > > Regards, > Andrew > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 11:08:25 -0800 > From: Ben Jackson <b...@ben.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Looking to replace $4000 machine for $400 > machine with same results in emc :) yes its a strange title... > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: <20120305190825.ga80...@kronos.home.ben.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 02:02:51PM -0800, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > > > Live configuration of a 5I25 is theoretically possible but fairly icky > > requiring the configuration utility to save the BARs, reconfigure the > chip > > and then restore the BARs to their previous BIOs determined values. > > We do that at work (embedded Linux device) and it works fine as long as > you can ensure any access to the BARs is stopped during the > reconfiguration. > > -- > Ben Jackson AD7GD > <b...@ben.com> > http://www.ben.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:19:15 +0200 > From: Viesturs L?cis <viesturs.la...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Looking to replace $4000 machine for $400 > machine with same results in emc :) yes its a strange title... > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: > <CAKNeY+f9arSYivTCu+4uzp1_R=axk4nw8vih5shg0bisvdp...@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2012/3/5 Peter C. Wallace <p...@mesanet.com>: > > > > There will be a 5I25 configuration utility for Linux fairly soon. > > > > Re-configuring a 5I25 will likely never be as quite as easy as the live > > reconfigurable cards like the 7I43 and 5I2X, as it requires a power cycle > > after the new configuration is written into its flash memory. The > advantage is > > that it eliminates a whole interface chip and thus can be much cheaper. > > > > That is great news! > IMHO restarting PC for any configuration changes to take effect is > completely fine. For me all the PC setup - installing Ubuntu and > LinuxCNC, getting the config (usually based on sample configs > provided) to work takes several hours, so one more system restart > makes absolutely no difference to me. > > Viesturs > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:21:20 -0500 > From: gene heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Bringing linuxcnc to its knees, begging for > mercy! > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <201203051421.20830.ghesk...@wdtv.com> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="windows-1256" > > On Monday, March 05, 2012 02:12:58 PM Chris Radek did opine: > > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 12:05:02PM -0600, sam sokolik wrote: > > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/gui/axis.html#_axis_preview_control > > > > > > (AXIS,stop) Stops the preview from here to the end of the file. > > > > Thanks Sam, I think this is really the answer in this case. > > > > You can even have a program that *never* ends, and it will work fine > > if you just tell AXIS to stop the preview. > > > > The program Gene shared has a feed distance of 44941 inches, which > > is about 50 hours of runtime at F15. > > > > (I have a fast machine here, and the program loaded in about 20 > > seconds. It just looks like a solid white donut, though.) > > > That is the other problem. The solid is too solid, you need to be able to > see thru it and see the internal shape of the cut, which is the actual > target in this case. Possibly axis has a way to make that translucent > rather than a solid white? > > I am watching my much improved & faster version simulate a run now, looking > for clues in the debug output between the course and fine loops to see if I > can determine why the fine loop isn't showing in the preview. If I can't > spot the error, I'll replace that file with what is running now & maybe > someone else can spot it. But I might try the axis stop, axis start stuff > to see if that would improve my preview image. Hide the course cut stuff > once its proven. ;-) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------ Try before you buy = See our experts in action! > > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > Cheers, Gene > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene> > If what they've been doing hasn't solved the problem, tell them to > do something else. > -- Gerald Weinberg, "The Secrets of Consulting" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:31:56 -0600 > From: Chris Radek <ch...@timeguy.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] HAL scope > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: <20120305193156.gf51...@timeguy.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:04:56PM +0200, Andrew wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Anybody knows why halscope 'open data file' menu item is inactive? Is > there > > any trick to open saved data? > > Sadly that feature is just unimplemented. > > It's deceptive to have it there but inactive, since usually that means > it can become active if only the user could figure out how! > > I imagine someone put it there as a plea to developers of the distant > future... (I wonder if it was me?) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:53:14 +0200 > From: Andrew <parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] HAL scope > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: > <CAJZ=BTP8rYeeji=-2pawg8q53ddq0esztwd0bkuj+a+ez__...@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2012/3/5 Chris Radek <ch...@timeguy.com> > > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:04:56PM +0200, Andrew wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Anybody knows why halscope 'open data file' menu item is inactive? Is > > there > > > any trick to open saved data? > > > > Sadly that feature is just unimplemented. > > > > It's deceptive to have it there but inactive, since usually that means > > it can become active if only the user could figure out how! > > > > I imagine someone put it there as a plea to developers of the distant > > future... (I wonder if it was me?) > > > > Pity, but no problem, data can be visualised in other program. > I also found a bug/feature. In 8000 samples (2 channels) mode I watched 1 > and 3 channels, then saved data. But 1 and (probably) 2 channel were saved > into file, and 3 channel was lost. Good that I can repeat the test :) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 12:08:03 -0800 > From: dave <dengv...@charter.net> > Subject: [Emc-users] Why APT > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <20120305120803.37d3b4ef@dsk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > List: > > Not listing, straight up: right? > > While surfing the apt stuff this morning I found a program called > cone.apt. > > I looked appropriate to GH's problem. Edited version is listed below. > For some reason the loop limit doesn't kick in so it goes on past the > desired depth. Other than that it appears to work at least under sim. > > > partno cone from spiral > $$ This program profiles a cone by spiralling around > $$ the surface. It uses a parametric equation for a > $$ helix, and decreases the spiral's radius as it > $$ generates the spiral. > clprnt > machin/emc > $$machin/pmill > cutter/0.125, .0625 $$ 1/8" ball nose > d1=4 $$included angle of cone > d2=.75 $$start dia > d3=.52 $$end dia > d4=.0i $$spiral feed per rev > d5=5 $$degree increments > > > endz=(d2-d3)/2/tanf(d1/2)$$depth of cone > goto/0,0,0 > theta=0 > tanAng=tanf(d1/2) > > loopst > agn) z=-(d4/360)*theta > x=(d2/2+z*tanAng)*cosf(theta) > y=(d2/2+z*tanAng)*sinf(theta) > goto/x,y,z > theta=theta+d5 > if(endz+z)quit,quit,agn,quit) > loopnd > > > fini > > It does need a few edits to work, etc Fn, G5n, M2 | M30 and truncating > the code at the desired depth. > > Dave > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:13:17 -0500 > From: "Kent A. Reed" <knbr...@erols.com> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Why APT > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: <4f551e5d.3040...@erols.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 3/5/2012 1:28 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > dave wrote: > >> I may have to eat my words. I just looked at one of the .asm routines > >> and it looked rather well documented. But then that assumes that one > >> knows 360 assembler. The fortran documentation is terse. > >> > > 360 assembler is fairly readable, once you know the basic format of the > > instructions. > > They have register-register and register to indexed memory for > computations, > > and the usual conditional branch instructions. Subroutine call/return > > is ghastly, > > from the 1950's. To call, you branch and link (BALR) typically using > > register 14 to > > store the return address. Return is BR 14, branching back through the > > register > > storing the return address. Forgetting to save R14 causes an infinite > > loop when > > the outer routine has called another subroutine and then returns to > itself. > > > > Jon > > > > > Dave/Jon: > > To quote a Roy Clark line uttered in some of his old banjo-playing gigs, > "that's so good it makes my nipples hard; I know it's wrong but I'm weak." > > I never thought I'd ever run across the phrase "BR 14" again and reading > it gave me a thrill. It's right up there with the abend codes which were > so easy to trigger when coding in assembler. > > Seriously, though, looking through apt360-0.1.tar.gz, specifically in > the orig_sources directory, I gathered the following statistics: > > 240 FOR modules, 40341 lines total, of which 10670 are comment (C) lines > (didn't check how many lines are blank) > > 63 ASM modules, 13270 lines total, of which 1018 are comment (*) lines > (didn't check how many lines are blank) > > > As much fun as I'm having reliving the long nights I spent pouring over > stacks of line-printer listings in the user rooms at the University of > Chicago and Argonne National Lab from 1966 to 1975, I don't see myself > trying to transliterate 12000 lines of IBM/360 Assembler into anything > else, especially given the general state of the documentation. > > The original MIT work ended ca. 50 years ago; the aptos work appears to > have ended only 5 years old. Have you tried to locate Brent Muller, who > apparently did the latter? > > Regards, > Kent > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try before you buy = See our experts in action! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > End of Emc-users Digest, Vol 71, Issue 22 > ***************************************** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! 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