hah!  FINO.  i always wondered what that thing was called.

--- On Wed, 4/11/12, Kent A. Reed <kentallanr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Kent A. Reed <kentallanr...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] machine tool tapers
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 9:10 AM
> On 4/11/2012 7:41 AM, charles green
> wrote:
> > dC::deviation from concentricity
> > dL::deviation fron longitudinal position (tool length)
> > dA::tolerance range of cone mating angle
> > dA/dt::cone wear factor
> > Tg::load torque applied normal to cone (rotation) axis
> (taper guage line=center of torque?)
> > P::load (Pressure, tension) along (cone) axis of
> rotation
> > TT (bold letter T)::vector representing specific cutter
> geometry/material
> > M::(vector?) machinablity figure of merit for billet,
> given cutter material of TT
> > S::rotation rate around cone axis
> >
> > alot of video games incorporate a physics model basis
> for the coordinated movements of player avatars. 
> perhaps the tangible world of substantial stuff made of
> atoms is just not cost effective to precisely simulate.
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 4/9/12, Kent A. Reed<knbr...@erols.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> >> <...deleted a longish trail of email messages
> from Charles Green, Viesturs Lācis and me>
> >>
> 
> Sorry, Charles, I should have looked up-thread to see what
> you 
> originally asked. I was responding to a specific point in
> Viesturs' 
> reply which of course I chose to interpret in my own snarky
> way.
> 
> I believe wholeheartedly in computational engineering and
> science.
> 
> In my professional career I have written a number of
> substantial 
> computer programs which today would be classified as
> "modeling and 
> simulation" but which in the day were simply "codes". They
> ranged from 
> the domain of the very small---detailed physics involved in
> 
> inter-molecular collisions in rarified high-temperature
> gases in order 
> better to understand energy transport and transfer---to the
> domain of 
> the very large---detailed analysis of the reflected
> solar-energy 
> distributions from hundreds of individually controlled
> heliostats spread 
> out over acres at the Solar Thermal Test Facility in
> Albuquerque in 
> order to understand and possibly improve the flux
> distribution along the 
> central receiver (this in the 1970s, before "drill, baby,
> drill" became 
> our mantra). The list goes on.
> 
> I also know something of metallurgical tribology (the study
> of 
> interacting surfaces in relative motion) and I know people
> who have made 
> substantial contributions to the art. Modeling and
> simulation in 
> conjunction with sophisticated experiments to gather needed
> data and 
> verify results have moved the field smartly forward in the
> past 30 years.
> 
> I wasn't questioning the value of modeling the behavior of
> tapers in 
> sockets. I was doubting that the existing systems of
> standardized 
> industrial tapers for machine tools are based on modeling,
> sophisticated 
> or otherwise. I'd love to look at some of the original
> patents to see 
> what they say. I'll have to add that to my
> first-in-never-out (FINO) 
> stack of things to do:-)
> 
> Regards,
> Kent
> 
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