Dave, Thanks for the info on the Elk Park guys. After I go through tuning my 10hp phase converter I'll give them a call on Wednesday (let the ones with read problems have Tuesday).
John On 5/26/2012 7:28 AM, Dave wrote: >>> If line filters are used that SIEMENS has not certified for use with > SIMODRIVE > 6SN11xx/6SLxx, this can result in harmonics being fed back into the line > supply. These harmonics can damage/disturb other equipment connected to > this line supply.<< > > What they are talking about here is that if you do not use Siemens certified > filters/reactors, that you can feed harmonics/noise back into the > power line and damage/disturb other equipment on the same line. > > Oftentimes, in the US we ignore this stuff and forget about the line > filter/reactor at the input of the drive, but in the EU it is pretty much > mandatory that > reactors be put on the drive inputs to avoid interference with nearby > equipment and other users. > > Andy or someone else, perhaps Dr. Mark, explained to me that in the UK they > have a 380 volt bus system that powers an entire street with one transformer > - so an unfiltered drive would thrown noise on everyone's power line on the > street. In the US things are quite a bit different. Many of us, and most > factories, have our own tranformers so that minimizes the ability for a drive > to screw with the neighbors power supply. > > That is the problem with Siemens manuals, they cram so much stuff in them > that is really not relevant to the situation, it can be hard to distinguish > what is relevant and what is not. > > I have some Siemens drive system manuals that are over 1000 pages long - > fortunately they are in PDF format otherwise they would look like phone books! > > If I were to guess, I think that your drive may be sensing phase inbalance > and tripping out on a phase loss error. The Elk Grove guys might know a way > to get around that situation. > > Dave > > > > On 5/26/2012 7:04 AM, John Thornton wrote: >> Could this be part of the issue? chapter 7 harmonics bouncing back from >> the caps in the rotary phase converter perhaps? so maybe a filter... >> real early here so only partially awake >> >> John >> >> When the requirements regarding system fault level are observed and when >> using the appropriate line supply filters, the harmonics fed back into >> the line >> supply lie below the compatibility level of Class 3 of the >> electromagnetic environment >> of industrial plants and systems according to EN61000–2–4:2002. >> When the recommended SIEMENS line filter is used and the EMC mounting/ >> installation regulations are complied with, the noise emission limits >> according to >> EN50081–2 Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC) – Generic Standard, Noise >> Immunity/emission – Part 2: Industrial environments (1993) are complied >> with. >> Notice >> If line filters are used that SIEMENS has not certified for use with >> SIMODRIVE >> 6SN11xx/6SLxx, this can result in harmonics being fed back into the line >> supply. These harmonics can damage/disturb other equipment connected to >> this line supply. Certification, e.g. CE is invalid. >> Certificates from Siemens are invalid, for example CE , UL. You are >> responsible >> for generating/obtaining the certificates for this new combination. >> It is not permissible to connect additional loads after the line filter >> >> On 5/25/2012 2:59 PM, andy pugh wrote: >> >>> On 25 May 2012 20:17, John Thornton<bjt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The infeed unit is a 6SN1145-1BA00-0BA0 >>>> >>> This looks like the manual. >>> http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/llisapi.dll/csfetch/59401543/PJU_0212_en.pdf?func=cslib.csFetch&nodeid=60683460&forcedownload=true >>> >>> There is an interesting section about how to connect to various >>> earthing styles. Which might be very relevant to your situation and >>> the reactor. >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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