On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:58:21PM -0400, John Kasunich wrote: > I do feel somewhat strongly that items should remain on the > agenda until the membership explicitly either approves or > rejects them. I just added that to the agenda.
Good, then let me spell out my thoughts too. In the June meeting, the person making the proposal was the one to introduce it and explain it. I feel it's the job of the proposer to lead the discussion and make the persuasive arguments in the time between meetings, and then explain and summarize that work at the meeting. I guess I was imagining that if the proposer was still wanting a certain thing to happen, and the proposal is tabled one month, that person would continue to place it on the agenda and, between meetings, do the work to rally support. If the proposer decides they no longer care about a thing, they can let it drop by just doing nothing. (This is also a way to save face, and avoid making people tell you NO, if you decide your idea wasn't so great, or it's the wrong time for it.) I'm picturing an absurd situation where the proposer doesn't care anymore, and maybe doesn't even show up to present or argue for it, and does no work to bring people together between meetings, but the proposal is stuck on the agenda forever. But as you say, in that situation, those present can just vote it down. But with that in mind -- I'm worried though, that if a proposer can't show up once, the item will still be on the agenda, but the prime person arguing for it won't be present. Maybe it's better if the proposer can bring it up again when ready -- simply by adding it to the agenda. If you're doing the work of cheerleading a proposal, editing the agenda once a month to keep your idea active seems like a very low bar. I think with the system I propose, votes will mostly be "yes" or "tabled" (meaning that AT THIS TIME there's not enough information or consensus to conclusively say yes). With the system you propose, I think there will be more "no" votes when proposals are made that nobody really does the "community" work for. Maybe "tabling" is bad and we should just be unafraid to vote no when there's not enough information or consensus to decide yes. I may be overthinking all of this. Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
