On Tue, 8/13/13, TJoseph Powderly <tjt...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How to test brush type DC servo motors?
 To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
 Date: Tuesday, August 13, 2013, 11:35 PM
 
 On 08/14/2013 12:26 AM, Gregg
 Eshelman wrote:
 > I want to see if my motors will run. How do I identify
 the motor wires VS the tachometer wires so I can hook up to
 a DC power supply just to see if they'll run?

 a picture would help
 but often the motor wires are heavier gauge
 
 also the 4 wires ( assumption ) are often not gathered
 together
 because the tacho easily gets noise from the motor
 
 and the tacho is usually at the end of the motor opposite
 the shaft
 
 and the motor wires are nearer the brushes
 
 (often, not a rule )
 
 hth
 TomP tjtr33

The motors have flex conduit attached with the bulkhead connectors that have 
screw collars. I'd rather not have to take that apart. Is there a way to 
identify the motor wires with a continuity tester or ohmmeter? Is there any 
wiring standard for those connectors?

I'm considering getting a set of steppers with encoders - 6 NM peak torque, 
drops to around 3 NM at 1,000 RPM according to datasheet. 3 NM is peak on the 
DC motors I have - so the steppers will have more torque around the speeds 
they'll likely be running much of the time. Matching drivers from the motor 
manufacturer are also in the package, so are motor and encoder cables. Cost for 
all that (used pulls from a functioning machine) is about the same as a single 
old Servo Dynamics SD1525-12 driver board.

Better yet, they're much shorter length and weigh less than the DC motors and 
the system only needs 115 volt AC so I can take the big power supply out of the 
box, and I get the benefit of having the encoders and the linear scales. I'll 
have room in the big box for a phase converter for the spindle motor and 
everything else. I'm thinking a mini-fridge is a possibility so I can keep a 
supply of Mountain Dew Throwback handy... it's a really huge box. Or I could 
move the spindle control relay components into it and get rid of that slightly 
less big box.

I'm a cheap scrounger and there's just no way I'm spending multi-thousands 
getting my mill into working condition. :-) With patience I will find the 
components at prices I'm willing to pay. If a good SD1525-12 board dropped in 
my lap at a price I figure is decent for a piece of quarter century old 
electronics, I'd grab it and stay with the DC motors and the old drivers. 
That's why I snagged that one motor for $299, because it matched the other 
table motor and was at a sane price instead of being priced as if it was a rare 
antique vase.

Then there's the 'little' issue where I have no idea if *any* of the motors and 
electronics on the mill are good. There could be reasons beyond the broken CRT 
and fried monitor power supply why this mill was sidelined and cannibalized for 
parts. Buying less expensive, newer, used motors and drives looks like a safer 
play to me.

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