On 12/10/2013 3:18 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 December 2013 14:55:24 andy pugh did opine:
>
>> On 21 October 2013 18:21, Les Newell <les.new...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> A trick to get around this is to use a 24V transformer to buck the
>>> mains down to 216V. Add the voltage doubler after that and your DC is
>>> spot on.
>> You seem to understand transforners :-)
>>
>> I am wondering what I can do with this one, that I found in a skip.
>>
>> Ideally I would like a 100V isolated supply, just to be a bit less
>> scary when messing about with servo motors.
>> (Rectified UK mains is 300V + )
>>
> Or about 215 volts rms, 50hz I assume?
>
>> This is the label on top:
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxjJW1-T6n7Cd2FrOWV5R3dRZnFhV2xrV0F3OHp
>> 3UW05X2NF/edit?usp=sharing
> This label can be a bunch ambiguous.  But with the top wired in parallel,
> feeding one side to terms 39 and 37, and the other side to 36-38, one would
> assume the secondaries can then be probed to see which could be used to
> obtain the voltage you need.
>
> Basically two warnings apply.  Don't "seriously" overvoltage the primary
> else the iron will become saturated magnetically at the peak voltage and
> when that happens the input current rises dramatically and heating
> destruction can occur.  I see it has a 1050VA rating, or nominally 1
> kilowatt in round figures.  The iron saturation point isn't a generally
> published spec but can usually take a 15 to 25% overvoltage condition in
> well built transformers.  I ran my mill for years on an old tranny from a
> 2" tape machine, feeding the 127 volt primary voltage we get here in the US
> of Hay, to the primary terminals labeled for a 90 volt feed, in order to
> get 29.5 volts for the motors out of the 24 volt winding when using a choke
> input filter.  No noticeable heating of that 50+yo well potted hunk of
> iron, but that is "pushing the envelope" looking for the smoke vent with
> more modern iron.
>
> This transformer in the pix, can also handle a nominally 440 volt feed by
> shorting 37-38 together, and feeding the line rails to 36 & 39.  This would
> divide the secondary voltages by 2.
>
> They could have labeled it better though, and I doubt if an English label
> would remove any of the ambiguity.  If that was available as surplus, I'd
> take a couple of them.
>
> Cheers, Gene

Good point about saturating the iron via overvoltage.    That probably 
explains why I melted some 14 gauge wire several years ago.. in a "test 
connection".

Andy said he got the transformer out of a "skip" which I believe 
translates to "dumpster".

As in  dumpster diving.  A sport in which I am well versed.  ;-)

Dave

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