On Sunday 05 January 2014 08:50:13 andy pugh did opine:

> On 5 January 2014 01:56, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote:
> > This looks a bit too good to be true, but...
> > <http://www.ebay.com/itm/131084063012
> 
> it does look a lot like http://www.lathes.co.uk/logan/page2.html
> (Which is linked from the Logan page).
> 
> > I suspicion the motor is small, with questionable bushing in it and by
> > now the bed is likely swaybacked, but it also seems like it might be
> > worth some ball screws, a spindle encoder, and a 2.5 or 3.5hp
> > treadmill motor running on an Empire 25 amp 120 volt controller.
> 
> I am curious why you are attracted to that particular lathe, when
> there are so many others?

The amount of 'starter' money.  If it turns out to be problematic, then all 
I have lost is about $1500 by the time I run to the south end of FL, 
dropping the wife off in Mt. Dora where she has a niece who has a couch, 
some northwest of Orlando, while I make the rest of the trip almost to the 
keys, its not that far from Homestead.  But I am not in love with that idea 
given road conditions this time of year.  It could get interesting any 
place between here and Hotlanta.  And she doesn't "travel well" the last 5 
or so years.

If I really wanted a nostalgia trip, I would have bought the remains of 
that Porter for $500 right here in town.  But then I came home and went on 
fleabay & priced a Z screw for it since its a good 6 feet of bed. Can you 
spell "sticker shock" when you get above 25mm and nearly 2 meters long?

I would have to have a job lined up for it before the fork lift ever went 
under it. :(

The ball screws, motors are largely a fixed cost, scale to the size of the 
machine, with nearly zero relation to its age, and this would be as close 
to zero original cost as I've come across so far.  Building a new spindle 
drive wouldn't be cheap so that would have to be added.  In many cases in 
fact since modern variable speed drives seem to be limited to the treadmill 
scrap and 2.5-2.9 hp max.  But when you can get a 2.9 for a 50 dollar bill, 
a controller for $150, a PWM interface to LCNC for $50 or less, the 
mechanical interface then turns into time to make it.  That I am familiar 
with, I just did it on the 7x12, putting a 1.5 horse motor, not in it, I 
made a jackshaft that occupies the space the OEM motor took up, mounted by 
the same 4 point all adjustable rig the OEM used, then made a swing mount 
off the backside of that to mount the treadmill motor.  Then a wrecked UPS 
van donated lots of 1/8" sheet alu to make an open bottomed box to hide the 
interface, power, and a 25 amp motor controller, keeping the swarf out of 
things (I hope).  But I ran out of room when I went to add the suicide 
braking, so there is another smaller, just as home made box on top of the 
big one to hold the braking staging relays.  And with a new, 5" chuck, its 
starting to look like a real lathe!  But has no hand wheels at all unless 
you count the compound.  I intend to remove that to reduce the spring under 
the tool post at some point, but miss-laid my round tuit last summer.

> It does appear that all parts are still available from Logan:
> http://www.lathe.com
> 
> Normally I would prefer a lathe with a separate power shaft, a geared
> headstock and an underdrive with roller bearings on the spindle.

Someone said it did have hard bearings?  Or are they non-adjustable cheap 
balls?
 
> However, if the aim is to convert to CNC then the separate powershaft
> is unnecessary, but the rest of the problems still remain. That motor
> might be sized for all the power that it is possible to transmit
> through the flat-belt drive.

I thought of that too, a definite consideration when the work might be 
chucked by turning the jaws around.  That is probably why there are a 
couple bars of belt dressing laying on its chip pan. Thats what I took 
those nominally 40mmx40mmx1500mm light colored bars to be.  I also was not 
able to find the chuck keys.

Thanks Andy.

Cheers, Gene
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