On Thursday 09 October 2014 12:33:17 John Dammeyer did opine
And Gene did reply:
> The Spectrum analyzer and SWR Bridge allow signal generation and as a
> tracking generator can also analyze cables.  It's a sweet tool.
> 
> http://www.rohde-schwarz.com/en/product/fsh3-6-18-options_63490-7578.ht
> ml
> 
> http://www.rohde-schwarz.com/en/product/fshz2-productstartpage_63493-77
> 81.ht ml
> 
> John

Dunno, I suppose if one wanted to test the quality of a new and unknown 
quality cable it could be useful.  But in troubleshooting existing cables, 
I have yet to see anything work slicker than a good TDR.  You can have a 
bullet burnout someplace in a 2100 foot run of high powered coax, take a 
look at it on the TDR and tell the tower crew within 5 feet of where to 
take it apart.  The 5' error?  Probably the operator, not knowing the 
exact propagation velocity of that particular line & using a SWAG instead.

>From there of course, they may have to take several sections below it to 
clean up the burnt teflon soot, but it saves them time & you money for the 
high steel people on site if they don't have to take the last 140 feet of 
it apart looking for the problem.

I've even used a homemade one, using F family chips for pulse drivers and 
a 100+ Mhz scope & some math.  It worked well enough to hit the bad joint.  
And some local frogs who had never seen a TDR were telling me I was 
wasting my time.  I told the crew to take the tower top jumper on the west 
side apart and if it was clean, start down, the line was slower than my 
data said it was.  The jumper was 4 elbows arranged to form a U shape with 
the U laying horizontal.  The vertical lines go up the face of the tower, 
and this jumper went from the vertical line to the line going up the 
antenna mast itself, a run of about 32" if the tower is Stainless G5.  The 
line springs had gradually pulled the line up, slightly over stretched, 
and the U had about a gallon of water in it because the line had been 
pulled up about 4", creating a low spot for moisture to collect.  Its a 
pressurized line, 2 to 3 psi of dry nitrogen in it, operator checked & 
replenished if needed 2x daily, so the ONLY way that water got in was the 
last crew put it together wet.  And they knew it because they had to wait 
for the rain to stop before work resumed the next day, after leaving it 
open when they quit the night before, not even a garbage bag tied over it.

The tower crew that originally did that work for me has never been on site 
again, per my orders.  We were probably out some north of $50,000 in lost 
air time, make goods and extra work because they were so sloppy.

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk]
> > Sent: October-09-14 3:28 AM
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Oscilloscope + logic analyzer (PC based)
> > 
> > On 08/10/14 23:05, John Dammeyer wrote:
> > > Sorry.  3GHz. Not MHz.
> > 
> > Something that popped up on my in box ...
> > https://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/rf-explorer-signal-generator-
> > rfe6gen.html
> > ... 24MHz to 6GHz controlled by the PC :)
> > 
> > --
> > Lester Caine - G8HFL

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS

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