Dave you are 100% right. Your detailed explanation it`s correct
conceptually and practically for an industrial application.

Alex
Il giorno 08/nov/2014 17:03, "Joe Hildreth" <j...@threerivershospital.com>
ha scritto:

> Bruce,
>
> Yeah, I suppose I have been beating the horse to death with the questions.
> Sorry.  But hey, when you don't know a lot about it you have to start
> somewhere, right?  Thanks for all the help and clarification.
>
> After I sent the email, I went off in search of relay logic circuits.
> After reading a couple of articles I seen that I had it wron in my head.
>
> Talking about easy cheap MC's, I loved the PIC, simple to code, implement
> and cheap on the wallet.
>
> I am off to look for circuit examples.  Thanks for being so patient.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe
>
> ----- On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Bruce Layne
> linux...@thinkingdevices.com wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > In the words of Roseanne Rosannadanna, you ask a lot of questions! :-)
> >
> > You don't wire the coils of relays in series for relay logic.  The coil
> > voltage is selected to match the voltage you want to use to activate
> > it... 5VDC, 12VDC, 24VDC, 120VAC, etc.  You wire the relay contacts in
> > series to implement an AND function (as is the case with your E-stop
> > switches and a relay that mirrors the status of the internal LinuxCNC
> > E-stop signal, and any other relay controlled signal you want to
> > generate an E-stop).  You'd wire the contacts from different relays in
> > parallel to implement an OR function.
> >
> > The reason I suggested using relay logic for this application is
> > simplicity.   You'll need a relay to externalize the internal E-stop
> > status anyway, so just wire the contacts in series with any E-stop
> > switches you have and you're finished.  Why add any discrete logic ICs
> > to that?  It's needless complexity.
> >
> > I'm generally a big fan of implementing logic in software or firmware.
> > I've replaced a lot of goofy 1950s technology relay logic where relays
> > and electromechanical timers were used in the 1990s because someone
> > didn't know how to use a PLC or (my favorite) a one dollar RISC
> > microcontroller.  But if you already have the relay and that's all you
> > need, why add an Arduino to drive the relay?
> >
> > If you search for "E-stop circuit" and look at the images, you'll see
> > lots of examples and it'll make sense.
> >
> > There are also some standard circuits for input power disconnects (I
> > don't go to that formality for my small CNC machines) with
> > fuses/breakers, ON and OFF pushbutton switches that latch the ON
> > condition until the OFF button is pressed, etc.
> >
> >
> > Bruce
>
>
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