Using a autotransformer with a 220V in with a 110v out should do the job. It is 
relatively small, and much cheaper than a fully isolated transformer. I bought 
one in a toroidal configuration, 500VA size, about USD$35.00. Had three voltage 
taps as well. I used it at 120V to get 60V AC for my setup. Remember that an 
autotransformer does not isolate the secondary 

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3. Re: Manual Mill Setup Question (Mark Johnsen) 
4. DC Supply (Kirk Wallace) 
5. Re: Linux Program for Wiring Diagrams (Jon Elson) 
6. Re: 3x Servo-To-Go 4 axis isa cards for a bottle of wine, if 
anybody still needs them (Jon Elson) 
7. Re: DC Supply (Peter C. Wallace) 
8. Re: Stg documentation, opamp error on the servo-to-go stg 
card with switch mode dc dc converters in modern atx power 
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Message: 1 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 07:38:00 -0800 
From: Kirk Wallace <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux Program for Wiring Diagrams 
To: [email protected] 
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On 01/23/2015 09:40 PM, Evan Foss wrote: 
> I use geda. 
> 
> http://www.geda-project.org/ 
> 

I use gEDA too. I tried Eagle, but the making of devices is just _too_ 
difficult compared to gEDA. Too bad Eagle has become the standard, much 
like Windows. 

I also use Inkscape for documenting system layouts. Making and labeling 
blocks is easy, but the connection routing at my skill level is just 
running lines, so there is no intelligence behind the connections. 

There is also a LinuxCNC extension to Inkscape for generating g-code: 
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?InkscapeHowto 
http://www.cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&start=420 

gEDA has an extension for HAL: 
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?HalSchematicsUsingGschem 


-- 
Kirk Wallace 
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ 
http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ 



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Message: 2 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 07:55:23 -0800 
From: Mark Johnsen <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux Program for Wiring Diagrams 
To: [email protected] 
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I'll throw DraftSight into the mix. Free download and available for Win, 
Mac, Fedora, and Ubuntu. I have no idea how it would work w/ Wheezy or 
other Linux flavors. 

http://www.3ds.com/products-services/draftsight-cad-software/free-download/ 

Draftsight is very AutoCAD looking... 

OT: I had heard that SpaceX had used Visio before they purchased a real 
electrical CAD program. And, I've heard others using Visio for electrical 
schematics. Only issue is that it will cost you and probably Win only. 

Lastly, someone already recommended KiCAD, the guys at Sector67 were using 
that to document their Anilam to LinuxCNC retro-fit and I'm inkling to give 
a try. It looked pretty nice and would give you room to grow into circuit 
boards if you wanted to go that direction. 

Here's the link for sector67, if interested to look at what they did 
(scroll down the page): 
https://code.google.com/p/sector67-sandbox/wiki/ProjectSheetCake 

Good luck - Mark 


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Subject: [Emc-users] Linux Program for Wiring Diagrams 
From: "linden" <[email protected]> 
Date: Fri, January 23, 2015 9:34 pm 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <[email protected]> 

I need to consolidate all my scribe notes and scraps of paper for my 
linux cnc XYZ table and need to plan out the conversion of my tree 325. 
Dose any one have any suggestions for making wireing diagrams. I have 
found lots of programs for pcb design but I am looking to produce block 
diagrams and wiring diagrams with pin outs ect. any suggestions or 
experience. 

thanks Linden 

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Message: 3 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:00:50 -0800 
From: Mark Johnsen <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Manual Mill Setup Question 
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Todd, 

Kirk Wallace has done a PyVCP panel that is worth checking out, he posted a 
link to it here: 
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/EMC2/dro_vfd/ 

Mark 

PS - Thanks again everyone for your replies. 


Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 14:11:44 -0500 (EST) 
From: "Todd Zuercher" <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Manual Mill Setup Question 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
<[email protected]> 
Message-ID: 
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Would it be possible to build a pyvcp panel that can control the spindle as 
you need it while Linuxcnc is in the "off" mode? 


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Message: 4 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:49:20 -0800 
From: Kirk Wallace <[email protected]> 
Subject: [Emc-users] DC Supply 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
<[email protected]> 
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
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Thinking aloud... 

I have been playing with an MA860H stepper drive which seems to work 
well enough for my mill. 
http://wallacecompany.com/ma860h/ 
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/ 

I have an Antek toroidal transformer that is feeding 75 VAC to the 
drive. The drive has an input limit of 80 VAC or 110 VDC. Although, to 
feed three drives, I'll need a bigger transformer to supply 15 Amps or 
more. I can use a 60Hz big iron transformer, but these are big, heavy 
and expensive to purchase and ship. I could use multiple toroids, but 
these are expensive. 

Then I got to thinking. What about a buck converter to convert mains 
(120 or 240 VAC) to mains DC to high Hz AC to let's say 90 VDC? Or more 
simply, pump the useful part of the mains AC into a large capacitor in a 
way that maintains the DC voltage I need? This sounds a little like an 
SCR circuit, such as a light dimmer, universal motor speed controller, 
or SCR DC welder. This might be a way to leverage a cheap second hand 
commodity device to a specialty purpose. (But keeping in mind that 
common converters don't like their outputs switched.) 

So, what are some ways of feeding roughly 90 VDC or 70 VAC at 15 Amps to 
motor drives from 240 VAC mains? 

-- 
Kirk Wallace 
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ 
http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ 



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Message: 5 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 11:11:01 -0600 
From: Jon Elson <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux Program for Wiring Diagrams 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
<[email protected]> 
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 

On 01/23/2015 08:34 PM, linden wrote: 
> I need to consolidate all my scribe notes and scraps of paper for my 
> linux cnc XYZ table and need to plan out the conversion of my tree 325. 
> Dose any one have any suggestions for making wireing diagrams. I have 
> found lots of programs for pcb design but I am looking to produce block 
> diagrams and wiring diagrams with pin outs ect. any suggestions or 
> experience. 
> 
> 
One think that might be more program that you need is 
kicad. it can be built for 
either Linux or Windows. It definitely has a decent 
schematic editor with component 
library editor, too. (I use Protel 99 under Win XP in a 
virtualbox environment. 
This is a far better PCB program, so I keep on using it. 
Perhaps someday, kicad 
will catch up to it.) 

Jon 



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Message: 6 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 11:18:27 -0600 
From: Jon Elson <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3x Servo-To-Go 4 axis isa cards for a bottle 
of wine, if anybody still needs them 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
<[email protected]> 
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 

On 01/23/2015 09:51 PM, Peter Blodow wrote: 
> Max, 
> from the servotogo site, I can't quite see how the cards are used. There 
> are a keyboard and an ethernet jack plus 4 ISA slots. What fits into 
> these, and how are the cards used? What else is neded to put thew things 
> to work? The servotogo site gives me lots of error messages when I try 
> to read their manual. And where are you located? 
> 
> 
The servo to go board I used years ago, which I THINK is the 
board we are talking 
about, is the SECOND picture on their web site. it plugs 
into an ISA slot, and can control 
up to 4 or 8 axes. It has a US Digital encoder counter chip 
and a DAC, plus a 
header for some TTL digital I/O. The card in their picture 
is obviously an updated 
version of what I had, mine had no Xilinx FPGA or CPLD on it. 

I don't know what the top picture is, but it may allow you 
to use up to 4 of 
their motion interface boards from ethernet. It may have 
some sort of 
Arduino or similar CPU in that mezzanine board. 

I couldn't get the docs for that board to work. 

Jon 



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Message: 7 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 09:19:01 -0800 (PST) 
From: "Peter C. Wallace" <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] DC Supply 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
<[email protected]> 
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed 

On Sat, 24 Jan 2015, Kirk Wallace wrote: 

> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:49:20 -0800 
> From: Kirk Wallace <[email protected]> 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
> <[email protected]> 
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <[email protected]> 
> Subject: [Emc-users] DC Supply 
> 
> Thinking aloud... 
> 
> I have been playing with an MA860H stepper drive which seems to work 
> well enough for my mill. 
> http://wallacecompany.com/ma860h/ 
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/ 
> 
> I have an Antek toroidal transformer that is feeding 75 VAC to the 
> drive. The drive has an input limit of 80 VAC or 110 VDC. Although, to 
> feed three drives, I'll need a bigger transformer to supply 15 Amps or 
> more. I can use a 60Hz big iron transformer, but these are big, heavy 
> and expensive to purchase and ship. I could use multiple toroids, but 
> these are expensive. 
> 
> Then I got to thinking. What about a buck converter to convert mains 
> (120 or 240 VAC) to mains DC to high Hz AC to let's say 90 VDC? Or more 
> simply, pump the useful part of the mains AC into a large capacitor in a 
> way that maintains the DC voltage I need? This sounds a little like an 
> SCR circuit, such as a light dimmer, universal motor speed controller, 
> or SCR DC welder. This might be a way to leverage a cheap second hand 
> commodity device to a specialty purpose. (But keeping in mind that 
> common converters don't like their outputs switched.) 
> 
> So, what are some ways of feeding roughly 90 VDC or 70 VAC at 15 Amps to 
> motor drives from 240 VAC mains? 
> 
> -- 
> Kirk Wallace 
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ 
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ 


A SCR controller should work, _but_ it will have trouble with a capacitor 
input filter because of the fast rise time when the SCR turns on. This will 
cause very large current spike charging the filter capacitors. A solution 
woudld be to use a inductor input filter but unfortunately the rather large 
filter inductor requied will be expensive 


Using a single MOSFET, you could reverse the timing and do phase control on 
the rectified DC by turning the MOSFET on at zero crossings and off when the 
120Hz pulsating DC has reached the proper voltage. 

> 
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Message: 8 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:39:17 -0700 
From: Sebastian Kuzminsky <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stg documentation, opamp error on the 
servo-to-go stg card with switch mode dc dc converters in modern atx 
power supplies 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
<[email protected]> 
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 

On 01/23/2015 03:37 AM, MH wrote: 
> Hello, 
> 
> could somebody include a sidenote in the servo-to-go stg documentation here 
> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/drivers/servo_to_go.html 
> that the opamps on the stg card do not work with all newer atx power 
> supplies that use modern switch mode DC-DC converters? 

Hi Max, thanks for this info. I added a blurb, it's building right now 
and will show up here within the hour or so: 

http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/servo_to_go.html 


-- 
Sebastian Kuzminsky 



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