On 29 Mar 2015, at 04:53, Scott Salrin wrote:

>   Thanks again for the words of encouragement the other day, guys. I've
> been thinking, which has always been dangerous for me. I need to bounce my
> thoughts off of some smart people, to set me straight.
> 
> First let be beg forgiveness if this is inappropriate, or if I pull this
> thread off topic... It seemed dead anyway.
> 
> As I mentioned, I have not received the machine yet, so all of this is
> theory at this point. The router is a Probotix Nebula, and will come ready
> to make chips out of the crate, but I have a lot to learn in preparation
> and trying to figure it out on my own is starting to hurt. I am having a
> tool length switch installed and it will come configured with a tool
> changing routine. The routine is called by a o100 command. I am also having
> a 4th axis rotary installed.
> 
> This is where I am confusing myself. I haven't purchased the cam yet, but
> do believe it will be vectric aspire. This means the the rotary work will
> have to be wrapped around I believe the x axis, in this case, at the post
> processor.

I use Vectric VCarve Pro, which is of the same family as the more capable 
Aspire. I have done some wrapped rotary axis engraving, and I'm not entirely 
sure you have the right story here. I think (but am not 100% certain) that 
Aspire expects a 4th axis to be the rotary axis (i.e. not cable-swapping to 
temporarily substitute one of the other axes). Vectric have a very active and 
well-managed Forum for support. Questions are usually answered quickly and 
helpfully, so I suggest you ask this question directly, on the Forum.

If my own impression is wrong, it is not difficult to output G code fro Aspire, 
then edit it using a simple diameter/length conversion factor to cause the G 
code commends for one axis (say X) to act s wrapped A axis code to control your 
4th rotary axis. I've done that quite successfully in the past.

I also suggest you specifically ask for a LinuxCNC post-processor whcih can 
cope with a wrapped 4th axis. Vectric originally didn't have a LinuxCNC 
post-processor at all, but wrote one for me when I requested it. I did have a 
conversation with them about a LinuxCNC post-processor which would output the 
correct A axis code when using their wrapped-axis "gadget". They said they were 
willing, but, for simple logistical reasons (coder was away in the USA at the 
time) they didn't get around to it in time, and I did my own thing with a 
conversion factor. It would be worth returning to that, if they haven't already 
done it.

Marcus

 
> I also want to use the makers guide featured in the attached
> video, foe most of my work, and will need to pull off all the custom
> buttons and code to make that happen.
> 
> Am I correct in thinking that all the coding I'll need to do will be in
> absolute co-ordinates, and not affected by the gcode that is wrapped around
> the x axis. Like if I set the rotary to be say a G55 work co-ordinate, and
> run a wrapped gcode file that has tool changes in it, when a tool change
> routine is called the machine will go to the tool change position, wait for
> me, do the routine and go back to G55 and start running the wrapped code
> again?
> 
> Or, is it going to sit there after the new tool length offset and spin the
> A axis instead of travelling back the the work offset origin?
> 
> Here is a link to the code Probotix uses:
> http://www.probotix.com/wiki/index.php/Automatic_Tool_Length_Sensor
> 
> I apologize for all the background, but don't know enough to know how much
> info you might need, or if you get these "newbie" questions all the time.
> 
> I do appreciate any time taken to help,
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Friday 27 March 2015 17:42:14 andy pugh wrote:
>>> On 27 March 2015 at 21:35, Scott Salrin <scott.sal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I just need to find a way to make it work in linuxcnc.
>>> 
>>> It isn't magic. And you won't need any C.
>> 
>> Yeah, if I can write the code to do that so can he.
>> I do it in pieces, like I think theres a holefinder.ngc on my web page
>> that can be edited to work with that jig.
>> 
>> Probably a poor tutorial, but it works well enough for drilling pcb holes
>> halfway thru the board, turning the board over and drilling it half way
>> from the other side with the holes meeting in the middle w/o a visible
>> offset.
>> 
>> Applied offsets are TBD by the user though.  Here its repeatable to under
>> a thou variation.
>> 
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>> --
>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
>> 
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