On Saturday 02 May 2015 08:50:28 Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 02.05.15 06:26, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Its come to my attention that something has already destroyed one
> > hard drive in that box, forcing a reinstall and a recovery session
> > with amanda to recover my stuff, and I am wondering if whatever is
> > polling the drives at 2 second intervals was a contributing factor. 
> > So I just logged into that box and ran htop, discovering that
> > networkmanager was also running although everything it touches has
> > been subjected to a chattr +i, effectively emasculating that bit of
> > crap.  So the first thing I did was to sudo apt-get purge
> > networkmanager.
>
> That's pretty much the first thing I do on a ubuntu box, but more to
> get mail and other network-related stuff working.
>
> What do /var/log/kern.log, and perhaps /var/log/messages say? Being
> persistent across boots, I guess they're your best bet for diagnosis.
> If the wheels are falling off in rtai, then hopefully it'll squeal
> there.

Its not in RTAI.  It will crash just as randomly when lcnc isn't running.
>
> As for regular disk activity, they all seem to do it these days,
> whether ubuntu or debian - mine is doing it every 7 seconds or so.

The other, first box I bought, isn't blinking the led drive led.  But htop 
does show that command running, scanning /dev/sr0 for a disk insertion 
I'd guess, at 2 second intervals.

> > Also, gnome-power-manager is in the top 20 of the htop list.
> >
> > Perhaps that might be disabled also?
>
> I've just killed that process on a non-rt ubuntu 8.04 box. After
> twenty minutes, it hasn't been auto restarted, and I haven't noticed
> any issues. (Had to boot another host, since this debian 7.8.0 box has
> no gnome-power-manager to begin with.)
>
> Not sure if this is the latest version, but have you run an eye over
> the things to check here?:
>
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TroubleShooting#Checking_the_
>RealTime_subsystem
>
> That "pcspkr" is sufficiently vague to make one wonder.

Thats the beep generator. Uses the speaking in the computer if there is 
one.  I don't think these boxes have one.

> This is admittedly fox hunting in the dark without a spotlight, but if
> I've set something running, mebbe someone else will plug it.
>
> Erik
>
Here is a snippet from /var/log/messages showing one such crash and my
pressing of the reset button when I found the mouse was frozen:

Apr 29 14:42:51 lathe kernel: [62057.888772] hm2/hm2_5i25.0:     IO Pin 033 
(P2-13): IOPort
Apr 29 14:42:51 lathe kernel: [62057.888955] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: registered
Apr 29 14:42:51 lathe kernel: [62057.888961] hm2_5i25.0: initialized AnyIO 
board at 0000:05:00.0
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: imklog 4.2.0, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="4.2.0" 
x-pid="755" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com";] (re)start
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe rsyslogd: rsyslogd's groupid changed to 103
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe rsyslogd: rsyslogd's userid changed to 101
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.32-122-rtai 
(root@moses-6core) (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ) #rtai SMP 
Tue Jul 27 12:44:07 CDT 2010 (Ubuntu 2.6.32-122.35.rtai-rtai 2.6.32.11+drm33.2)
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus:
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000]   Intel GenuineIntel
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000]   AMD AuthenticAMD
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000]   NSC Geode by NSC
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000]   Cyrix CyrixInstead
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000]   Centaur CentaurHauls
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000]   Transmeta GenuineTMx86
Apr 29 15:03:03 lathe kernel: [    0.000000]   Transmeta TransmetaCPU

I don't see a thing in that.
>
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