Ok I found sudo fdisk -l to see the drives...

JT

On 2/20/2016 6:01 AM, Philipp Burch wrote:
> Hi John!
>
> On 20.02.2016 12:34, John Thornton wrote:
>> I see two ways to clone a HD on the web one using dd and one using tar.
>>
>> Boot from the live cd. Mount your destination media to (say) /mnt.
>>
>> dd if=/dev/sd whatever of=/mnt/mybackup.ddimg
>>
>> In this case what do they mean by mount?
> It depends on what you want to achieve. If you want to clone a HD in a
> two-step process going over an image file, then this approach is fine.
> "Mounting" the destination media in this case just means to make it
> accessible in the same way as you would do outside the LiveCD
> environment, i.e. by doing it manually using something like
>
> # mount /dev/sdX /mnt
>
> or by clicking the drive in the file browser. If you plug in a removable
> disk, it might also be mounted automatically. On recent versions of
> Ubuntu, the standard mounting location is
>
> /media/username/drivename
>
> The directory /mnt is not special at all, it is just kind of a
> convention to use it as a mount point for some media. But you could just
> as easily create a folder on your desktop and mount the drive there.
>
> A few words to dd: You may get somewhat faster operation by letting it
> working with larger chunks of data. I usually use something like
>
> # dd if=src of=dest bs=1M
>
> so that it reads and writes 1MiB blocks instead of the default (probably
> 4kiB). If you know for sure that your source HD only contains data up to
> some address, you can avoid creating an image padded with a lot of
> unused data by limiting the amount of data to copy:
>
> # dd if=src of=dest bs=1M count=4000
>
> This will copy 4000*1M=4GB of data and stop then. If you want to keep
> the image around, it may also be a good idea to compress it on-the-fly.
> This can be done by omitting the of=dest part, in which case dd will
> output the data to stdout, from where it can be piped through gzip (or
> another stream compression utility). But I'd need to look up the
> required flags for gzip first.
>
>> Mount the source to /mnt, mount the destination to /home (say)
>>
>> tar cvfpz /home/mybackup.tar.gz   /mnt
>>
>> does this tar create a copy of the whole disk?
> Maybe. While dd operates on the raw disk file (e.g. /dev/sda, you
> usually do NOT want /dev/sda1), tar takes all the files in the source
> filesystem and puts them in an archive. This may save some space and
> makes it easier to browse through the files, but it requires that you
> partition and format a new disk before copying the archive back onto it.
>
> So, depending on the use-case, I'd suggest one of those variants:
>
> - If you want to create an exact clone of a drive and can connect both
> the source and destination drive to your computer at the same time, then
> use dd without compression and directly operating on the device files of
> the two drives. I.e.
> # dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
> Make *really, really* sure that you do not mess up if and of, as dd
> otherwise will happily overwrite your source drive!
>
> - If you want to create a backup image of an entire disk for later
> copying to a fresh drive, use dd, maybe with the count flag and/or with
> compression and store the output in a regular file somewhere convenient.
>
> - If you want to create a backup of only one file system and want to get
> easy access to the individual files, use the tar approach.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Cheers,
> Philipp
>
>
>
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