Having bought a couple of these imported chucks, I threw them away, not worth even returning. I use Jacobs ball bearing race type drill chucks only. They don't slip, they don't jamb, they run true, and they are still built by the people who invented these things. I suggest a used one of these over any import. Try STM-surplus as an EBAY seller for a lead to nice used equipment.
----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:04:01 AM Subject: Emc-users Digest, Vol 119, Issue 3 Send Emc-users mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Emc-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. junk Drill chuck from Grizzly (Gene Heskett) 2. Re: junk Drill chuck from Grizzly (Chris Albertson) 3. Re: Need help with X200 VFD modbus (Danny Miller) 4. Re: junk Drill chuck from Grizzly (Gene Heskett) 5. Re: Need help with X200 VFD modbus (andy pugh) 6. Re: junk Drill chuck from Grizzly (andy pugh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 21:22:40 -0500 From: Gene Heskett <[email protected]> Subject: [Emc-users] junk Drill chuck from Grizzly To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings; Everytime I go to drill a hole, using this POS chuck grizzly puts in the G0704 kit, its a huge fight getting the wobbly bit to finally grab in and start cutting somewhere near the center of what the DRO says it is. When I say somewhere, often 30 thou off the spot. Prowling catalogs on the net tonight I can across an import 3-JT that sounds usable, page 479 on Enco's online catalog, #290-1515 for a red one under $65. Plus ship I assume. As that is at first glance, nominally a Ben note less than the real Jacobs, it sounds almost to good to be good. Has anyone else any experience with this, probably Chinese 5/8" max chuck, that you could share? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 22:01:08 -0800 From: Chris Albertson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] junk Drill chuck from Grizzly To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <CABbxVHuovb18ZEUq4s7rT3nMzGUd0swQfROxLtTMs4RQ=mc...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I too have been shopping for drill chucks. Of all places amazon.com sells a Southbend brand chuck (0 - 1/2" and JT33) for $27.00. They sell another HHIP brand that I have that I measure runout by placing indicator on a length of dill rod mounted in the chuck. I get 0.002 swing on the dial. About $30 for the JT33 taper HHIP chuck. The Southbend chuck is still on-order so I don't know about it other then the brand name. Likely the Grizzly is actually HHIP but HHIP makes two lines of chucks that look identical, one they call a "drill chuck" and the other is the "Profesional Grade Drill Chuck" they sell for about $15 and $35 respectively. The pro model is spec'd for < 0.003 TIR mine is about .002 TIR. I'm buying more chucks because I'd tiered of moving mine between drill press, lathe and mill. What I'm getting at is that the generic Chinese chucks (HHIP is what I consider a generic Chinese brand) can be good if you read the specs and buy the right one. They can also be let's say "suitable only for use in a hand held drill'.. I'm very curious to see if the Southbend chuck lives up to its brand name and still sells for under $30. About hole drilling, Use a "center drill" first. They don't wonder, don't bend and make hole placement literally 10 times more accurate. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings; > > Everytime I go to drill a hole, using this POS chuck grizzly puts in the > G0704 kit, its a huge fight getting the wobbly bit to finally grab in > and start cutting somewhere near the center of what the DRO says it is. > When I say somewhere, often 30 thou off the spot. > > Prowling catalogs on the net tonight I can across an import 3-JT that > sounds usable, page 479 on Enco's online catalog, #290-1515 for a red > one under $65. Plus ship I assume. > > As that is at first glance, nominally a Ben note less than the real > Jacobs, it sounds almost to good to be good. > > Has anyone else any experience with this, probably Chinese 5/8" max > chuck, that you could share? > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 00:24:37 -0600 From: Danny Miller <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed So it is! It's "--baud=". Well, it didn't make the VFD run. And looking at the Hal monitor, the vfd "Ready" was False. I looked through the code, I see where it reads the coils, and compared with wj200 manual and x200 manual... the x200 does have all the same coils, but for some reason the wj200 put them at different coil numbers. So, the wj200 driver needs to be modified into an x200 and recompiled. We're working through how to do all that right now. The code modification seems trivial, the compile stage is a lot more. Danny On 3/1/2016 9:05 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 02/29/2016 10:26 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> Well I spent several hours on this now. I do see the format is wrong, I >> changed to: >> >> loadusr -W wj200_vfd baud=19200 >> >> But I've got it on a scope and it's still 9600 baud. And if I change it to >> "baud=hahahhaha", there's no error for it being a non-number either. >> >> Could the wj200_vfd code have a bug in accepting arguments? > It's certainly possible that there's a bug in the WJ200 driver, but at > this time I don't know of any. > > Looking at the code, i see that it expects arguments to have two leading > dashes, for example "--baud=12345". > > I also see that it does not attempt to validate the --baud=NUMBER > argument, so it makes sense that giving the argument "--baud=huehuehue" > leaves the baud rate at 9600 and does not complain. (I'm not saying it > *should* be that way, just saying that's what the code currently does.) > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 01:59:26 -0500 From: Gene Heskett <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] junk Drill chuck from Grizzly To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Wednesday 02 March 2016 01:01:08 Chris Albertson wrote: > I too have been shopping for drill chucks. Of all places amazon.com > sells a Southbend brand chuck (0 - 1/2" and JT33) for $27.00. They > sell another HHIP brand that I have that I measure runout by placing > indicator on a length of dill rod mounted in the chuck. I get 0.002 > swing on the dial. About $30 for the JT33 taper HHIP chuck. The > Southbend chuck is still on-order so I don't know about it other then > the brand name. Likely the Grizzly is actually HHIP but HHIP makes > two lines of chucks that look identical, one they call a "drill > chuck" and the other is the "Profesional Grade Drill Chuck" they sell > for about $15 and $35 respectively. The pro model is spec'd for < > 0.003 TIR mine is about .002 TIR. I'm buying more chucks because I'd > tiered of moving mine between drill press, lathe and mill. > > What I'm getting at is that the generic Chinese chucks (HHIP is what I > consider a generic Chinese brand) can be good if you read the specs > and buy the right one. They can also be let's say "suitable only for > use in a hand held drill'.. I'm very curious to see if the Southbend > chuck lives up to its brand name and still sells for under $30. I have a query into enco customer service, asking for any runnout specs it might have. But I don't expect an answer this time of the night. > About hole drilling, Use a "center drill" first. They don't wonder, > don't bend and make hole placement literally 10 times more accurate. Even a center drill is helpless in this thing. Depending on how its oriented in the chuck, in relation to a cutting edge vs the wobble, it can either walk to center, requiring an extra ton of force, or drill the center hole 1/16" bigger. Thanks Chris A. > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > Everytime I go to drill a hole, using this POS chuck grizzly puts in > > the G0704 kit, its a huge fight getting the wobbly bit to finally > > grab in and start cutting somewhere near the center of what the DRO > > says it is. When I say somewhere, often 30 thou off the spot. > > > > Prowling catalogs on the net tonight I can across an import 3-JT > > that sounds usable, page 479 on Enco's online catalog, #290-1515 for > > a red one under $65. Plus ship I assume. > > > > As that is at first glance, nominally a Ben note less than the real > > Jacobs, it sounds almost to good to be good. > > > > Has anyone else any experience with this, probably Chinese 5/8" max > > chuck, that you could share? > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > -- > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---------- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application > > Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > > $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > > actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > > Signup Now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 09:59:25 +0000 From: andy pugh <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <can1+yzxkppewnksh83k9+ksh2qc9r0bj8aplrtdhjayu7rz...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 2 March 2016 at 06:24, Danny Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > So, the wj200 driver needs to be modified into an x200 and recompiled. > We're working through how to do all that right now. The code > modification seems trivial, the compile stage is a lot more. The component is written in the "comp" format, so there is a chance that halcompile will work. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/hal/comp.html There is also a fair chance that it won't work due to the includes, but it is probably worth a try. If you change the name of the file you need to also change the name of the component (in the "component" line of the source file) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:03:14 +0000 From: andy pugh <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] junk Drill chuck from Grizzly To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <can1+yzwvw+zajpr1nxstj53odggdphozoepdzf_mgjmht+j...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 2 March 2016 at 02:22, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > Prowling catalogs on the net tonight I can across an import 3-JT that > sounds usable, page 479 on Enco's online catalog, #290-1515 for a red > one under $65. Plus ship I assume. Try prowling eBay for a second-hand Albrecht. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. 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