Logan STILL provides factory parts. (815) 943-6755. Had to buy a cluster gear 
for my 1949 model Logan lathe.... About $210 and wait a week. I am totally 
impressed. 

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2. Re: summing Z axes? (Ken Johnson) 
3. Re: Upset old fart (rayj) 
4. Re: What does "CNC" really mean? (Jon Elson) 
5. Re: What does "CNC" really mean? (Jon Elson) 
6. Re: Nice old iron (Jon Elson) 
7. Suitability question (Gene Heskett) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 17:57:32 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What does "CNC" really mean? 
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On Friday 02 September 2016 13:42:09 Dave Cole wrote: 

> And what about hanging chads?? ;-) 
> 
Chuckle, there is a law, if someone mentions chad, somebody else has to 
ask if its hanging. :) 

Cheers, Gene Heskett 
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Message: 2 
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 08:05:13 +1000 
From: Ken Johnson <bats...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] summing Z axes? 
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Thanks for your help Andy and Gene, I will investigate sum2 and see 
what I can figure out. 

Ken. 

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: 
> On Friday 02 September 2016 00:56:13 Ken Johnson wrote: 
> 
>> Is it possible to sum 2 Z-axes in linux-cnc? Reason for the question 
>> is my mill has both a knee and quill, and I would like to put a dro on 
>> both and have have linuxcnc sum them so the reading on-sceen 
>> represents the distance between tool and job no matter which of the 2 
>> I (or later, the software) move. 
>> 
>> I would appreciate it if you could give any answers in baby steps as I 
>> am very new to this and still trying to find my way in the software. 
>> 
>> Thanks, Ken. 
> 
> See 'man 9 sum2', and feed its output to the on-screen dro. And you will 
> learn a bit about the .hal file while "hooking" it up. 
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett 
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> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." 
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 19:54:41 -0500 
From: rayj <raymo...@frontiernet.net> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Upset old fart 
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On the topic of resources for old machines, does anyone have any good 
resources for Logan tools. I have a little Logan shaper I need a part 
for. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 

TIA. 

Raymond Julian 
Kettle River, MN 

The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, 
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. 
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, 
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men 
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second. 
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968) 

On 09/02/2016 10:32 AM, Jon Elson wrote: 
> On 09/02/2016 08:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: 
>> On Friday 02 September 2016 01:32:55 Jon Elson wrote: 
>> But, best to check with John 
>> Knox on the Sheldon group, he is from the family that owned 
>> Sheldon and worked for a number of years in the factory. He 
>> has the remaining docs on everything Sheldon built, and can 
>> tell you what it was SUPPOSED to be made of. 
>> 
>> Jon 
>> URL? 
>> 
>> 
> Sorry, I thought I'd already given that to you - 
> sheldonla...@yahoogroups.com 
> 
> A fantastic resource even without John Knox, but it is 
> almost like having the factory still open with his 
> contributions. I had some missing pieces in my apron when I 
> dug in there, and he gave me the part numbers and current 
> sources! Totally awesome! 
> 
> As for way wipers, there is a guy on there who is making 
> them for the smaller lathes. I have the material to make 
> them for the big lathes. If you have the wiper cover 
> pieces, cutting your own felt is not a big deal. 
> 
> Jon 
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Message: 4 
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 20:32:17 -0500 
From: Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What does "CNC" really mean? 
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On 09/02/2016 12:13 PM, John Kasunich wrote: 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016, at 07:29 AM, Bruce Layne wrote: 
>> 
>> On 08/31/2016 10:22 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: 
>>> Surprising that just for the fun of doing it, someone hasn't built a 
>>> punched tape reader for a 3D printer. 
>> 
>> Have you SEEN 10MB of paper tape?!? :-o 
>> 
>> The bits on paper tape are about .1" in diameter. That's a lot of paper 
>> tape. 
> 15.8 miles of paper actually. 
> 
> The spool would be over 35 inches in diameter and weigh 115 lbs. 
> 
> 
Wow! You actually calculated it! But, of course, the stuff 
comes on little rolls about 10" diameter, so unless you 
wanted to splice hundred of rolls together, you couldn't get 
it in a single piece. Hmm, let's see, a teletype would take 
2 weeks to punch that (little known constant, 1 million 
seconds is very close to 2 weeks - In the VAX operating 
system, there was some system variable that was shown in 
units of uFortnights, being very close to one second). 

Jon 



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Message: 5 
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 20:33:48 -0500 
From: Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What does "CNC" really mean? 
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On 09/02/2016 12:34 PM, Ken Strauss wrote: 
> Is that using paper or Mylar tape? Did you account for the weight reduction 
> due to chad removed? 
> 
> 
How could he, unless he knew the data? Lots of ones makes 
the tape lighter, lots of zeroes keeps it heavy. 

Jon 



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Message: 6 
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 20:36:51 -0500 
From: Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Nice old iron 
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On 09/02/2016 03:50 PM, andy pugh wrote: 
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Various-machines-untested-/282157105171?hash=item41b1dfc013:g:md0AAOSwRGlXqFQ2
>  
> 
> You would need a big truck for all 11 machines. 
> 
> There is something about the Ikega I like, but my garage is full. No, 
> really, it is. 
> 
Ugh, quite a rusty bunch of machines. 

Jon 



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Message: 7 
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 22:52:13 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
Subject: [Emc-users] Suitability question 
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Greetings everybody; 

Working on the drive shaft for the x screw in this Sheldon. 

1. I have 1/2" A2 rod, IOW 12.7m's in diameter. 
2. I've already cut 50 tpi threads, both straight and tapered, on the 
inner end. The tapered section will have 6 slots cut into it by EDM, and 
a tapered thread nut will then put the squeeze on the 6 fingers formed 
by the cuts, with the squeeze being the grip on the end of the screw. 
For both thrust and rotational forces. 
3. I'd like to use a 12mm bore timing pulley on the outer end, and 
another 50 tpi nut to adjust the load/preload on the roller bearing 
thrust washers I am installing on the OEM crossfeed handle bearing 
screw-in that exists now but with a counterbore in the outside end, 
probably covered with a felt swarf washer. I have taken some pix, but 
they are still in the camera. 

But, 50 tpi's thread depth calculations tell me the bottom of the threads 
valley will only be 10.95mm in diameter. So in order to get the nut to 
the full depth threads behind what should be a fairly smooth 12mm shaft 
to fit the stock 12mm pulley bore, I am going to have to cut a partial 
thread the full length of the shaft just to get the nut to the full 
depth threads. Obviously I'm not excited about that. 

So, should I do that, or go ahead and turn the shaft on down to 10mm's 
and order pulleys accordingly? I have some fresh, green, threadlocker to 
enhance the grip in any event. 

And I have to chuckle at the vendor who sold me the 1500mm long 2505 
screw kit. The end of the screw is 10mm's, and the flexible coupling to 
hook it to a motor? Its 6mm's on the motor end. But my motor has a 
15mm double flatted shaft. No common sense west of the big pond... 
That too will be belt driven. And I'm scanning ebays offerings for a 
pair of rubber bellows type boots to cover this screw with. Just 
haven't found what I think I need yet. 

The *667 hall sensors, and a decent motor mount (assembled bass ackwards 
of course) fell out of the mailbox today, so some of it is coming 
together, faster than I can make use of it. But its progress I try to 
tell me. 
Cheers, Gene Heskett 
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"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: 
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." 
-Ed Howdershelt (Author) 
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> 



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