They do have some quality items, but you pay for them.

You are revealing your age just a little.  :-)
I've been around the block a few times as well.

Regular oil based Rustoleum paint is good for at least 20 years outside 
if done with a primer and at least one heavy topcoat. But the surface 
has to be properly prepped.  I have past projects which have proved that.

I recently purchased some one part polyurethane (moisture cured) from 
Rural King that says that it has a 30 year design life outside.
Not bad for $80/gallon!

I re-roofed the house a few years ago and decided against 50 year 
shingles since I won't need anything that will last that long. ;-)

Dave

On 3/4/2017 11:25 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Usually when they put "marine" on the label the price automatically gets
>> jacked up 50%. :-(
> I wish it was "only" 50%.   But WM has been my go-to store when I need
> the best quality hardware, paint or electrical supplies.   Where else
> can you walk into a local retail store and find made in the US liquid
> tight sealed toggle switches, or even heat shrink tube with an
> internal lining of hot melt glue or any hardware item in type 316
> stainless?
>
> Last I used that paint it was outdoors with a foam brush.  I have a
> few items I painted that have been continuously outdoors for 30 years
> still looking very good.    But not cheap when you buy it by the half
> quart.  Or maybe it is cheap when you consider the lifetime cost
>
>
>> Two part poly/urethane paint is great stuff, but it is also very
>> toxic.   Isocyanates are usually used as a catalyst.
>>
>> You need to be very careful with that stuff.   I have used it, and it
>> works great, but it is a health risk if you don't use the right gear
>> including good gloves, keep the paint off your skin, and a charcoal
>> cartridge mask at a minimum if you spray it.
>>
>> Painters that use Poly/urethane paint regularly,  use supplied air
>> systems with full body suits so they avoid the fumes entirely and keep
>> it off their skin.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/4/2017 1:30 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Saturday 04 March 2017 13:13:41 Chris Albertson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gene,
>>>>
>>>> Do you live anyplace near a large body of water.  If so there is a
>>>> West Marine store near you.   Look for the paint there.  They sell
>>>> stuff used by boat owners who keep their boat in salt water 24x7.  The
>>>> best paint I found there is a catalyzed two part polyurethane.  It
>>>> comes in two cans.  you mix then and then most use the paint within a
>>>> short time.   You can spray it but it goes no well with a farm brush.
>>>>    How hard it it?  New cars now all have plastic painted bumpers, this
>>>> is when the car makers use on the numbers. It is tough stuff.
>>>> Problem is that whole price is over $100 per gallon and retail is
>>>> about $80 per 1/2 quart.    But if you are after "bought" you need the
>>>> kind of paint that is mixed just before use.
>>>>
>>>> The spray=on "epoxy" just epoxy power fillers in it and a normal
>>>> binder.
>>>>
>>>> There is also the kind that uses UV light to catalyze the reaction but
>>>> that is even more expensive and needs special UV light "ovens".  The
>>>> dentist use this for filling now and my sister uses this in her finger
>>>> nail solon.  Ive had here paint a smallpartthen place it in the UV box
>>>> and then the only thing that gets it off is abrasives and a
>>>> Dremel-like tool.
>>>>
>>>> The two part stuff will survive decades outdoors with direct exposure
>>>> to salt water, good enough.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Erik Christiansen
>>> Thanks Chris, yes, StoneWall Jackson Lake's Dam is less than 2 miles
>>> south of town. I'd use up a 6 gallon tank in my 9.9, and refill it from
>>> jerry cans twice from the headwaters of one leg to the headwaters of the
>>> other main leg, and be several hours doing it. In West Virginny, that
>>> qualify's as big. I'll see what Bill Cunningham has on the shelf at his
>>> Warehouse Marine facility.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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