On Friday 16 February 2018 06:16:00 Chris Albertson wrote:

> If you are bending a screw the speed does not matter it is the
> acceleration.  That is measured in meters per second squared (or
> whatever the Imperial equivalent is?  feet per second per second?)
>
> I think a typical low performance mill like most of us have might have
> go a 2m/s^2  A very high performance one might do 20m/s^2
>
> If the mill can do about 10m/S^2 then the force on the ball screw is
> equal to the weight of the table and whatever is bolted down to it.  
> Remember what Newton said "f=ma".
>
> Which happens first the ball nut breaks or the screw bends is
> determined by the length of the screw from motor to nut.
>
> Gene when you used the motor in a design where there was a very large
> static load, where the motor had to hold the weight of large vertical
> moving head  you'd expect poor movement compared to a horizontal axis.

That I have figured out finally Chris, its moving close to 100 ipm with a 
32 to 42 pulley set in the z on my Sheldon but its noisy as can be in 
the 7 to 20 ipm box. Its noise telegraphs up the keyboard shelf mounted 
on its mounting bracket. I'd had to put a 1/4" high fence around the 
edge to keep other stuff from vibrating off including the keyboard 
itself. Its also running an a few more volts than it was on the mill 
with its heavy head. 7 more volts IIRC. X is slow, but if I ever get off 
my duff and make a thin vibration damper, I think that would bring it up 
to 60 ipm. Its a nema 24, 8 wire, wired parallel and getting all a 2m542 
can give it at around 43 volts. Neither motor is best match, but what I 
had, or could get in the crowded area behind the new apron.

> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:54 AM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > On Friday 16 February 2018 02:20:40 jeremy youngs wrote:
> > > Chris, I think you are spot on . Nema 34 1600 oz in. And
> > > automation direct 110v drives.
> >
> > I have one of those motors. On the Z of my mill, with a 60 volt psu,
> > very poor performance. 27 ipm or stall lifting the head on the
> > G0704. Its now on the sheldons Z and while noisy, is also about 4x
> > faster.
> >
> > > I had y at 300 ipm 9×42 table. It was a very cheap
> > > ballscrew and I had it cobbled together now that the Machine is 3
> > > axis and spindle functional I will be able to make some belt and
> > > pulley mounts and resolve some issues.
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