Just want to second John here Sam.

You videos are awesome!

I have learnt a whole bunch of Hal from your videos.



On Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 1:28 PM Sam Sokolik <[email protected]> wrote:

> Technically it should be able to do about 20khz (with reset added to the
> pi_gpio component - SMOP).  This is playing within the constraints of the
> RT_Preempt realtime kernel...   This kernel doesn't usually have very low
> latency.  It is what it is.
>
> I really wasn't expecting the PI to do any software stepping.   But 20khz
> would be a decent solution for a lot of people.
>
> If you need more - buy external hardware like mesa.  It also runs it well.
>
> I am glad you enjoy the videos - I like making them.  I hope to make many
> many more.
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 6:12 PM John Dammeyer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sam,
> > Nice.  But it does seem to support my premise on isolating LinuxCNC from
> > the hardware control.
> >
> > For example, way back a Pentium 386-66 with WIN-95 and MACH2 CNC was able
> > to do this at 25KHz stepping.
> >
> > A BeagleBone Black with Machine Kit has PRUs to do the stepping and it's
> > what, 4 years older than a RPi4?
> >
> > You’ve already shown that for a 1GHz+ LinuxCNC system that with an
> > external Ethernet Hardware engine you can now get faster stepping rate .
> >
> > But only 10K steps/second on a 1GHz+ Pi?
> >
> > Since very slow PCs with limited memory could do this as well as the
> > slower PRU processors on the BBB, I'd venture a guess that if a Pi4 can't
> > do at least 50kHz stepping while also doing trajectory planning and
> screen
> > updates there is something really 'off' with LinuxCNC.  Maybe too many
> > hardware abstraction layers?
> >
> > If I do the math.  The RISC processors generally run one instruction per
> > clock cycle and if that's really true there are 20,000 CPU cycles between
> > each step at 50kHz.  Coming from the embedded world where I work that’s
> > huge.  And generally the trajectory planners create FIFO buffers that
> hold
> > a step and a direction bit for 4 axis in one byte.  Each byte, sent out
> at
> > 50Hz, either has a step signal nor not.  At the end of the 5uS step pulse
> > time as you said, the step levels are set off again.
> >
> > So as long as you can keep the buffer filled it's the interrupt routine
> > that places it out to a parallel port.  And filling the buffer is the job
> > of the trajectory planner which does the co-ordinated accel, velocity,
> > decel for all axis to be able to maintain a specific feed rate in 3 or 4
> > dimensions.
> >
> > I'd say being able to 10kHz stepping and being happy with that might be
> > setting the bar very very low.
> >
> > BTW, I really do enjoy your videos.
> >
> > John Dammeyer
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: February-16-20 3:27 PM
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > Subject: [Emc-users] RPI4 is pretty close to a decent machine control
> > > solution...
> > >
> > > software stepping...
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKjNOVHhHio
> > >
> > > Ethernet
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SEB7TuCUR0
> > >
> > > I don't have an spi solution to try....
> > >
> > > sam
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