Rembered the name, that's enough to find it in seconds Ziegler Nichols method 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziegler%E2%80%93Nichols_method 

On Wed, 6 May 2020 16:41:04 +1200
andrew beck <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'll have a play thanks
> 
> On Wed, May 6, 2020, 4:24 PM Nicklas Karlsson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Remove PID gains, try a step response on analog input signal controlling
> > speed and measure output? Then you have a good idea of response gains could
> > be calculated on computer.
> >
> > Have some other algorithm in course litterature, do not remember and have
> > too look it up, do not have time now.
> >
> > > nicklas
> > >
> > > just to clear up a few things
> > >
> > > the rs482 is for a chinese windows based tuning program.  it is
> > completely
> > > separate from linuxcnc.
> > >
> > > the drives do accept modbus but that is a job I have no fancy tackling
> > with
> > > linuxcnc lol
> > >
> > > and yes any tuning stuff you can find would be appreciated.  the problem
> > is
> > > I cannot use Halscope yet.  until I have the servos tuned already I think
> > > pretty close.   But I might be wrong so if anyone has some experience
> > here
> > > I would love to hear it.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:53 PM Nicklas Karlsson <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Hi guys
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been trying to connect my laptop to my chinese servos via
> > rs485
> > > > for
> > > > > ages to get the tuning software working and am not having any luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the mean time I am just wondering what the best way to tune the
> > servos
> > > > > is?  Can I hook up a oscilloscope to something?  I am lost how that
> > would
> > > > > work but have one I can use if needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can manually change the pid parameters in the drive easily  I just
> > > > can't
> > > > > measure it very well.  other than listening for noise.
> > > >
> > > > Have some kind of algorithm in course litterature for the case then
> > there
> > > > is no model of the system and a similar problem today. Maybe I could
> > point
> > > > you in the right direction tonight.
> > > >
> > > > There are also some kind of auto tune function in Linuxcnc, what kind
> > of
> > > > update frequency do you get them using rs485?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards Nicklas Karlsson
> > > >
> > > >
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