On Saturday 30 May 2020 20:34:39 Chris Albertson wrote:

> I think you have confused OnShape and SolidWorks.
>
> OnShape and SolidWorks are completely separate products.  One did not
> transition to the other and both are big-league players now.  OK,
> there is a connection. Some executives quit Dassault Systèmes SE (the
> makers of SolidWorks) to found this new start-up called OnShape.  The
> two companies are competitors.

Today maybe...

> OnShape does not offer a trial period.  And you never "install" it so
> you would not have needed to delete it.  OnShape is web-based and can
> be used on any computer with an Internet connection with no "install"
> required.
>
> It sounds like your licensing problems must have been with SolidWorks.
>
They were.  And regardless of the path those people took to get to 
Onshape from Dassault, we are faced with the fact that a leopard cannot 
change his spot pattern.

> I would not recommend SolidWorks to any hobby user. The cost is "mid
> four digits" which puts it out of reach.

They have certainly gotten hungry in the decade since I encountered them 
so unpleasantly.

> As for learning, Fusion and OnShape both have very good tutorials that
> were produced by the companies themselves and I've gotten good tech
> support even without paying for the products.
>
> About design files.  Keep backups in STEP format.  Then do the normal
> such that at all times you date lives on three different physical
> media and at two different geographical locations.
>
> > Funny you should mention Onshape though, formerly Solidworks. I made
> > the mistake years ago of downloading their so called freebie that
> > had a 30 day free trial, then found it had zero help unless you had
> > paid for it, and I was totally lost, never having dealt with any CAD
> > like program before.  So I deleted it, then spent the next year
> > feeding their legal threats to spamassassin and replying to them by
> > denying that a copy of it existed on any system I owned.  To say
> > they were insistent assholes about it is being way nicer than they
> > deserved.  They did every threat in the book short of sending it to
> > a bill collector.  I half expected to get a registered letter at
> > anytime, demanding I cough up the $600 they wanted, but eventually
> > they gave up.  So you can guess how fat the chance is that I'll ever
> > deal with those people again.
> >
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>


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