Igus makes plastic harmonic drives: 

https://www.igus.de/product/20413


> On 26. Jan 2021, at 21:59, Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just did t quick Google and found several companies who make belts
> "sliced to order" in any width.   6" wide if you like
> 
> The other way to "print" a flex cup is the print a female mold and fill the
> mold with urethane and kevlar fiber.
> 
> I'm working on a robotic/prosthetic hand that uses this technique,  Many of
> the parts are made with a very strong kind of urethane.  This stuff really
> takes a beating.   This is really a good way to use a 3D printer, You can
> make multi-part molds that come apart to allow the molded parts to be
> removed.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 12:13 PM Todd Zuercher <to...@pgrahamdunn.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For the belt idea, it might work better to invert the whole thing,  So you
>> have the belt teeth in and one gear with two fewer teeth than the belt,
>> then the follower wheels on the outside of the belt compressing it to mesh
>> with the smaller gear.  The hardest part might be finding a belt wide
>> enough to reliably flex between the two gear diameters.  (Something tells
>> me this sounds better than it can actually work in practice.)
>> 
>> Todd Zuercher
>> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
>> 630 Henry Street
>> Dalton, Ohio 44618
>> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sam Sokolik <samco...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 2:41 PM
>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?
>> 
>> plus - you fold one inside out - the pitch doesn't match up very well.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:30 PM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday 26 January 2021 13:04:11 Chris Albertson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The weak link on all 3D printed harmonic drives is the flex cup.  The
>>>> plastic fails after some hours of use.    The best design I've seen to
>>>> overcome this is to NOT print the flex cup.  They used a wide double
>>>> side timing belt for the inner teeth.
>>>> 
>>>> The thing that very few You tubers do when designing 3D printed
>>>> machines is to not simply copy the design of metal parts but start
>>>> the design from the ground up knowing they will be using plastic.
>>>> Plastic has very different strength and stiffness to volume ratios.
>>>> So if your part looks like the metal equivalent it is a good clue
>>>> you are doing "eyeball engineering" and your experience with metal
>>>> is influencing your design.
>>>> 
>>>> If you need to print a reduction gear and need a really big ratio
>>>> the Cycloidic reduction system really does work better especially if
>>>> the rolling parts are sealed bearing units that are press-fit into
>>>> the plastic.
>>>> 
>>>> That said, I've printed parts in plastic to directly replace metal
>>>> or even rubber and I just have to accept the very short lifetime and
>>>> low strength. Plastic is a good material to verify ideas quickly.
>>>> 
>>>> In any case, use a timing belt for the flex wall and it might last
>>>> 30 years.
>>>> 
>>> But that brings up the tooth profile problem.  I've not seen a timing
>>> belt that resembles the triangular splines?
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 8:47 PM Sam Sokolik <samco...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> I am sure the torque is limited - but I feel it might have
>>>>> possibility...
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlpkmEEhFqc
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