It's an upside down "L" shape, how about a sacrificial block that turns the "L" 
into a block?


Martin

Oops.  Forgot the raw material photo.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> Sent: August-03-21 2:28 PM
> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Something went wrong.
>
> That's a good suggestion John F.  Thanks.  I did do some more playing around 
> and it's clear the part flexing and the backlash both
> were at fault especially with the plunge to the next depth.
>
> And that brings up another issue.  One of my pet peeves with electronics 
> project magazines is they are great at a schematic and
> either point to point wired or PC board but very little energy is spent on 
> describing various ways of mounting or installing in a
> cabinet.  Especially with the concept of Human Factor Engineering which is 
> the practice of making something easy to use or even
> intuitive.  Like an ESTOP button is always a red mushroom  Not a toggle 
> switch.
>
> Same goes with work holding.  Youtube has tons of videos that show a tiring 
> sequence of a milling cutter sprayed with coolant
> making chips for 3 minutes with 3 commercials interjected, one every minute.  
>  But very little on work holding.
>
> The next part I am making is shown in the attached screen shot rendering.  My 
> raw material is in the second photo.  So the question
> is about work holding and how or what features of LinuxCNC can be used to 
> make this easier.
>
> I can use my band saw to create the initial width and split it into two L 
> shapes.  But after that I start to have problems, due to lack of
> experience I think, on how to firmly hold it and mill the stuff with a 5mm 
> and  6.35mm (1/4") cutter.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks
> John
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Figie [mailto:zephyr9...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: August-03-21 11:59 AM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Something went wrong.
> >
> > Speaking of backlash. My tiered old Bridgeport has about 0.002" of backlash
> > in the ballscrews. So if circular interpolation is used there is a small
> > bump at each 90 degrees of the circle. But if I make the finish pass first
> > clockwise and then repeat counter clockwise the imperfections are much
> > smaller. I know from experience with my first CNC machine that's built that
> > actually used leadscrews with lots of backlash the clockwise followed by
> > counter clockwise method was remarkable compared to a single direction
> > final pass.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 10:10 AM jrmitchellj <jrmitche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > You might try the run again without the backlash compensation in LCNC to
> > > get a feel of what it is actually doing.
> > >
> > >
> > > --J. Ray Mitchell Jr.
> > >
> > >
> > > ?I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the
> > > government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
> > > taking care of them.?
> > >
> > > THOMAS JEFFERSON
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 6:24 AM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday 03 August 2021 05:31:56 andy pugh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 at 07:58, <marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I draw all this from my own ballscrew conversion of my own mill,
> > > > > > some 20 years ago. If I was doing it again, I would use two nuts,
> > > > > > with spring tension between the pair
> > > > >
> > > > > Springs might not be the best way. The common way to tension double
> > > > > nuts is to (basically) screw them into each other and lock the angular
> > > > > relationship.
> > > > >
> > > > > You _can_ get preloaded single nuts, using oversized balls. That only
> > > > > works if the ball track is the right shape, though, it needs to be a
> > > > > 4-point contact shape.
> > > >
> > > > Which I'd suspect as being subject to rapid initial wear until it was
> > > > just a normal screw with about a thou of backlash.
> > > >
> > > > For me, I bought C7 grade which may have 2 thou but in several years has
> > > > not gotten significantly worse. Protecting the screw from contaminants
> > > > is the most important thing for long life. On my Sheldon, the Z screw, a
> > > > 1450mm long 25mm C7, got sealed bearings on both ends, a collar to clamp
> > > > a bellows to on both ends of both sections, and 2 of the 6 mounting
> > > > holes in the nut were drilled all the way thru so air could get from one
> > > > side of the nut to the other as the nut moved. The nut gets one pump of
> > > > grease a year. Backlash, some of which is in the end bearing, was about
> > > > 1.9 thou 5 years ago and still is. It has not been uncovered in that
> > > > time. I don't have a bellows on the x screw but its channel in the
> > > > carriage is sealed top and bottom unless the carriage is clear in.
> > > > exposing the screw behind the QCTP boss. No compound since LCNC is
> > > > better than mechanical you set by eyeball. Plus it was busted from a
> > > > fallover when I bought it. I keep a rag over the slot in that event.
> > > >
> > > > That faint thumping?  Me, knocking on wood, no swarf has gotting into it
> > > > yet...
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > > --
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> > > > respectable.
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