Then this proves the cause.  The isolators provide a low impedance path to
ground.  It is just current-limiting resistor and a forward-biased diode.
 With this low impedance to ground there is no way for EMI to cause the
voltage on the wire to raise.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 1:40 PM Peter Hodgson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Well............!
>
> A quick update for those that are interested.
>
> The HPCL2631's won the postal race and arrived in the mail today.
>
> I made up a little 'interface' board to mount them on with the pull ups,
> caps, etc. and fitted that board this evenening.
>
> After an initial check on the index pulse I ran my G76 program (in air)
> for the M47 x 3.0 thread, that as giving me so much trouble, whilst
> watching Halscope for the encoder index and I didn't see one ghost
> pulse. I did see one that was missing over the 7 mins but I don't think
> a missing pulse is going to give me as much trouble as ghost pulse and
> anyway that could have been a software glitch.
>
> Too late to cut metal now but I will tomorrow.
>
> Looking good though!
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> On 13/10/2021 19:12, John Dammeyer wrote:
> > I'll agree with Andy here.  I have a dual trace older digital scope and
> a 4 trace digital that can even decode CAN, SPI and I2C messaging.  I
> bought a small Digilant PC development kit version for $400 or so to get
> UART decoding for a PAN-TILT system that was misbehaving.  The add on
> module for the scope to do that was $1200 so a no brainer.  Haven't used it
> since we solved the serial port issues 3 years ago.
> >
> > But my 4 trace I use all the time.  The 2 trace has spent time out in
> the shop by the mill but was useless for determining what the issue was
> with the out of spec DC servo that only lost steps in one direction and
> never the other.  The G-54 zero crept in one direction resulting in the
> center drill peck holes being in one place and then a bit later the drill
> bit for those holes not lining up.
> >
> > In a noisy shop environment just getting the scope to see real data as
> opposed to the noise it picks up may be impossible.  I saw that at a
> Siemen's plant in Regensberg Germany back in the early 90's.   We scoped a
> CAN bus and could barely see the signal on the differential pair yet the
> system operated flawlessly.  Just couldn't find the right ground or
> whatever...
> >
> > So the money spent on a scope may not be worth anything.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: andy pugh [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: October-13-21 3:22 AM
> >> To:[email protected]; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses
> >>
> >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 11:13, Peter Hodgson<[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm watching a couple of Oscilloscopes on eBay so might take the
> plunge.
> >> I am going to go against the consensus and suggest that if you don't
> >> already have an oscilloscope, and don't know how to use one, then you
> >> might not find it much help.
> >>
> >> I certainly got nowhere trying to use one to track down false
> >> triggering of limit switches. And I have owned a 'scope for decades
> >> (though not used it more than a few times a year)
> >>
> >> --
> >> atp
> >> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> >> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> >> lunatics."
> >> � George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> >>
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