Mine only has 60 teeth and they aren't symmetrical but I didn't find any 
problems with rigid tapping.
John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> Sent: March-31-22 6:54 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Homebuilt encoder
> 
> I don't know - maybe over-thinking this a bit?  I have 2 machines using
> gear tooth sensors.  Both rigid tap perfectly without issues.
> 
> http://electronicsam.com/images/matsuura/sensors1.jpg
> 
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 8:32 AM gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, 31 March 2022 07:57:53 EDT andrew beck wrote:
> > > For those interested I decided I really should start to use the forum
> > > so people can search later for stuff hopefully I help someone.
> > >
> > > I have started on the gear sensor style encoder.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope it works.  Let me know your thoughts
> > >
> > > https://forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/45498-linuxcnc-machine-shop->
> > fun-thread
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > On Sun, 27 Mar 2022, 22:21 Andy Pugh, <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 27 Mar 2022, at 08:09, andrew beck <andrewbeck0...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > And is bigger dia better for higher resolution?
> > > >
> > > > Probably not, as it will perhaps have more scope to oscillate at
> > > > 10,000 rpm.
> > > >
> > > > Don�t neglect the purely mechanical design of this fast-spinning
> > > > part.
> > > >
> > > > Have you considered optical sensors rather than inductive?
> > > >
> > > > What will be counting the pulses?
> > > >
> > > > LinuxCNC can lathe-thread with one sensor.
> > > > But rigid-tapping is different as it needs to accurately detect the
> > > > reversal point. So you need three channels for index and full
> > > > quadrature.
> >
> > And this is the problem with useing an ats-667 gear sensor. It switches
> > on the approach, so the switch point, in only watching one edge, will
> > have a different switch point depending on the direction. Some day, I've
> > got the fix that.  Needs a circuit from the quad detectors direction
> > output, to dynamically switch the polarity of its pulse depending on
> > which direction the quad detector says its turning. Thats active
> > circuitry and needs to be MUCH faster than a hal thread. Probably in pure
> > hardware. Ideally for that, an edge detector watching and firing on both
> > edges with the first one "cocking" a trigger, and the second pulse then
> > gated to the index circuit. That way the pulse seen as an index would be
> > the one generated as the center of the trigger tooth is passing over the
> > center of the ats-667. The ats-667 stays in that state until the next
> > trigger is aproaching. So turning in one direction, its on 96% of the
> > time, but in the other direction its off 96% of the time.
> >
> > > > Work out what error you can accept in the reversal point detection
> > > > (as a fraction of thread pitch) and you can get a feel for how many
> > > > slots you need.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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