And another addendum. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/47796-install-rt-kernel-and-linuxcnc-2-9-on-rpi4#260565
> -----Original Message----- > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] > Sent: January-26-23 10:41 AM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > Just an addendum. Likely Peter at MESA can create a different 7i92 file that > fills the need for the Chinese BoB. > Here's a comment that is inside my Pi4 MESA hal file. > Note I identify the .pin file for the MESA. > Note too that there is no secondary function on pin 1 which is configured as > an output for the machine enable > signal. > > No beginner is going to want to start cutting traces to redirect one of the > PWM output modules to the first > DB25-1. So to truly make the 7i92H compatible with the Chinese BoB it needs > a different .pin file. But there's > no point if we can't first create a Tormach Pi4 LCNC image file. > > # external I/O signals > # IO Connections for P2 MESA 7i92_C11Gx2D.pin (from file) > # Pin# I/O Pri. func Sec. func Chan Pin func Pin Dir > > # 1 0 IOPort None > machine-is- > enabled (output) > John > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dave engvall [mailto:dengv...@charter.net] > > Sent: January-26-23 10:09 AM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > > > Different strokes for different people. > > Tormach supplies a niche market and is surviving. :-) > > I went the other way and bought a machine with a dead control at > > auction. Trucked it in, shoved it thru the door of my shop and then > > spent the next year getting it running, New servo amps, servo-to-go > > card,? encoders on the ballscrew, etc. Not for someone that wants a > > turnkey op. Resale is not good; e.g. Mazak converted at Galesburg went > > out the door for way under 1K$ and that had the tool change working, new > > driver cards, and I think new amps. Labor of love or a challenge but > > certainly not a business opportunity! > > > > I must admit the subject prompted a lot of traffic. > > > > Dave > > On 1/26/23 8:45 AM, ken.stra...@sympatico.ca wrote: > > > Nor do I! That is why I sent a pile of cash to Tormach instead of trying > > > to > > > roll my own. It just works and allows me to make chips without worrying > > > about editing files or applying updates that break things or... Others > > > obviously favour different choices! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Stuart Stevenson <stus...@gmail.com> > > > Sent: January 26, 2023 11:38 AM > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > > > > > "Define a set of hardware that works and make their own distribution > > > with > > > only one user interface. It doesn't surprise me that nobody wants to do > > > this thankless task." > > > > > > Perhaps thankless but Tormach has built a presumably profitable business > > > by > > > doing exactly that. > > > > > > And then packaging and selling the hardware to match. > > > An added dimension many (me included) do not want to tackle. > > > > > > Overall, I am very impressed (and satisfied) with the capability and > > > progress. > > > > > > thanks > > > Stuart > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 9:33 AM <ken.stra...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > >> "Define a set of hardware that works and make their own distribution > > >> with only one user interface. It doesn't surprise me that nobody > > >> wants to do this thankless task." > > >> > > >> Perhaps thankless but Tormach has built a presumably profitable > > >> business by doing exactly that. > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Eric Keller <keller...@gmail.com> > > >> Sent: January 26, 2023 10:01 AM > > >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > >> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:24 AM <ken.stra...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > >> > > >>> To me this is the minimum level of magic required to make a > > >>> commercially viable product. The vast majority of potential users > > >>> are uncomfortable (or don't want to bother) with manually modifying > > >>> configuration files. Of course the power of LinuxCNC is due to the > > >>> possibility of configuring things for all sorts of hardware. Without > > >>> magic the flexibility means that it will never be mainstream. > > >> Nobody wants to give up the flexibility though. The problem that lcnc > > >> has is aptly summarized in this thread where someone gave up because > > >> they wanted to use an Rpi4 and ethercat. That's fine, and there are > > >> plenty of people that have ethercat running with lcnc, maybe even on a > > >> Rpi4. But both the > > >> Rpi4 and ethercat require a bit of messing around, I think, and > > >> neither are really mainline lcnc. Getting a 3 axis running on a Mesa > > >> board on a PC with decent latency (another sticking point, > > >> unfortunately) is trivial. Someone mentioned 4 axis. The problem > > >> with that is that everyone has their own 4th axis. This is also the > > >> problem with lcnc in general. I would say more than 90% of the > > >> problems I see with people having trouble setting up lcnc is they have > > >> a totally nonstandard install that wouldn't work with any other > > >> software either. So they can't get it to work with lcnc, buy > > >> something standard, and go install Mach. And then badmouth lcnc any > > >> time the subject comes up. > > >> > > >> The people that want to make lcnc more popular could do something > > >> about it, I think. Define a set of hardware that works and make their > > >> own distribution with only one user interface. It doesn't surprise me > > >> that nobody wants to do this thankless task. > > >> Eric Keller > > >> Boalsburg, Pennsylvania > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Emc-users mailing list > > >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Emc-users mailing list > > >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Addressee is the intended audience. > > > If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read > > > this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving > > > or > > > reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private > > > correspondence. > > > Thank you for honoring my wish. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
