Considering how much of the Ru munitions have western chips proves how much of 
the world is willing to cheat for a buck. 

> On Mar 18, 2024, at 7:33 PM, gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
> 
> On 3/18/24 18:50, Jon Elson wrote:
>> On 3/18/24 07:53, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote:
>>> Gene,
>>> 
>>> In all honesty I wouldn't mind knowing more about your VFD source you say 
>>> you want black listed.  I'm so sick of trying to track down high speed VFDs 
>>> that I'm almost tempted to pay the machine manufacturer's ridiculous 3X 
>>> normal retail list price markup the next time we need a new one.   We 
>>> occasionally have needed a replacement VFD capable of running about a 15kw 
>>> 4pole router spindle at up to 24krpm (that is 800hz output, most drives 
>>> seem to max out at or are limited to 500-600hz output.)  The last time we 
>>> tried to order a new drive with these specs it was put on back order for 
>>> more than 1 year before we canceled the order.  (We canceled after the 
>>> delivery date had been pushed back 3 months for the 5th time.)  Then we 
>>> bought a used one off of ebay.  (Tracking down a used drive on ebay with 
>>> documented proof of the correct high speed firmware, when the sellers have 
>>> no clue, is also another annoying trick to perform.)
>>> 
>> I bought a $79 eBay special VFD for my Bridgeport R2E3 retrofit. The entire 
>> programming sheet was one large sheet of paper.  I wanted to program torque 
>> boost at the low-end. I could do that, but then the motor had an overcurrent 
>> at full speed.  There needed to be a breakpoint where the torque boost faded 
>> out, but I couldn't figure out how to set that.  So, I finally broke down 
>> and spent more money on one from Automation Direct.  It came with a 90+ page 
>> book that had all the parameters listed, and showed how they interacted.  
>> Very good, clear and understandable.
> 
> And worthless w/o that.
> 
>> There are arms controls on high frequency VFDs.
> 
> Yeah the ITAR stuff IIRC. The one that came as OEM on the 6040 didn't do 
> anything it was told, ran in random directions etc. I threw it in the trailer 
> and bought a $120 clone on ebay. Its done as it was told for around 5 years 
> now. But its been changed once as the OEM motor was 120 volt and I was going 
> blind from the blinking shop lights so when the 120 volt motor bearings went 
> out, 3 or 4 hours running, the whole thing was replaced by 250 volt 4 bearing 
> stuff. One session with bad water I had to learn about, should still modify 
> it with a deionizer. but its not plugged up the motor,,, yet...  That 6040 
> has stepper/servo's on the Z and B axises. the Z because the 4 bearing motor 
> is bigger and heavier so stock couldn't lift it, same size motor in 
> stepper/servo picks it up at 60 ipm. And has never faulted. B axis is another 
> stepper/servo, follows the Y at 400 rpm carving vice screw threads in perfect 
> sync. 4mm tall buttress threads, 50mm in diameter two start, 12mm pitch in 
> hard maple. 3NM motors on 5/1 worms, chucks, shaft adapters, mounts, all 3d 
> printed, works great. And no (expletive) PID's in sight. They do exactly as 
> the tp or motion tells them to do.  Sweet.
>> Jon
> 
> Take care & stay well Jon.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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