Here’s an idea: look for a high count thru-hole absolute encoder with an 
additional coarse pulse output. Use pulse for tracking speed in normal lathe 
mode and absolute output for tracking position in C-axis mode. 



> On Nov 3, 2024, at 11:05 PM, Ralph Stirling via Emc-users 
> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> I am toying with the idea of building a benchtop lathe around
> a Taig 5C headstock, with a direct drive motor.  Frameless motor
> components are available relatively inexpensively now from
> AliExpress and some other suppliers, and could make a very
> clean, compact machine.  The spindle tube on the Taig headstock
> is 42mm diameter, so everything needs an ID larger than that.
> The best component choices I've found so far are:
> 
> Motor: RI85 model 2Nm rated, 5Nm peak, 48V 16A $178
>   
> https://www.robotshop.com/products/cubemars-bldc-motor-with-potting-robot-arm
> 
> Encoder: 46mm bore 40kppr $71 
> https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800909154622.html
> 
> I want to be able to do C-axis positioning for mill-turn work, so want 
> decent resolution.  The AliExpress listings for encoders leave a lot
> to be desired for both mechanical and electrical specs.  For example,
> I have no idea what the maximum frequency is for this 40k pulse 
> (counts?) per rev encoder.  The motor is rated for 3100 RPM, and I'd 
> like to be able to go that fast. That would be over 2MHz.
> 
> I plan on designing a brake to lock the drawtube and use the motor to
> open and close the 5C collet.  I may make a dinky bar feeder for it.
> 
> Questions:
> - Anybody used one of these frameless motors?  Anything to watch out for?
> 
> - Any cheaper encoder options out there that would work well?  Will this type
>  of magnetic encoder work for a 3krpm spindle?
> 
> - Any other ideas or suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- Ralph
> 
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