Hi Gene,
Thanks for the feedback.  I find, and maybe it's a good thing, that there
are less and less "roll your own" types out there so that's why I wonder
about the future of LinuxCNC.  MachineKit died now maybe the BeagleBone
Black wasn't the best solution but it was a simple one and with the
co-processors formed a tight CNC system.  

But when links to web pages for support vanish it's almost like a book
burning.  You want to look it up but the book was burned last month and
there aren't any copies.
John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gene heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net]
> Sent: November 26, 2024 11:56 PM
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC future.
> 
> On 11/27/24 01:48, John Dammeyer wrote:
> > I was in a discussion with a friend about CNC systems.  He's acquired a
> MASSO box and commented on the superb documentation compared to his
> UCCNC system for his router.
> >
> > My comment was that a standard PC or Raspberry Pi4 (Pi5?) and a MESA
> Ethernet Interface like a 7i95 at the lowest level will run simple CNC
machines
> like CNC routers without fancy tool changers etc.
> >
> > And I reminded him that the FPGA's on the MESA products have open
> source configuration.  The question asked was, and I didn't have an
answer,
> how open source are they really?  If someone wanted to do their own PC
> board layout could they build an equivalent 7i92H or is there still stuff
that's
> proprietary?  The rest of LinuxCNC is all open.  May be a mine field of
very
> confusing and difficult to understand information but it's there for the
people
> who know.
> >
> > Nice as  MASSO looks or some other systems I prefer the MESA and PC (or
> Pi4/5) solution.  But how does one justify a LinuxCNC solution for a
simple CNC
> system.  Not a major overhaul of old iron that gets the old paper tape
stuff
> thrown out.  But a brand new mill from the far east that is retrofitted
with
> inexpensive AC Servos?
> >
> > John
> >
> I went thru that several years ago when I bought a far eastern 600x400
> gantry mill that was 4 axis cnc with BBLB stuff much of which, like the
> vfd, was thrown away because It was only manually controllable.  The z
> motor was too weak to pick up the spindle, and I needed a 4th B axis
> too. So the electronics went in the trash trailer, a decent psu was
> fitted and at first enough 2m542's found to move xy at 200 ips. I had
> then just converted my sheldon to better 3 phase motors. So I bought two
> more, put a 1NM 3 phase, a direct, same physical size on the Z at the
> same time the OEM spindle had failed, bearings shot. Z can now lift a
> kilogram heavier motor quite nicely at 75ipm.
> 
> These 3 phase motors are stepper/servo's. Looking for a B axis, I bought
> an RVS30 5/1 worm, printed a stick chuck and printed a base for all that
> including the shaft adapter for the 3NM motors 8mm shaft to the 14mm
> input on the RVS30. So now I have a B axis that can do 500 rpm while
> synchronized to Y. Then, wanting to use buttress threads on the vice
> screw I planned to make by syncing B to Y. But the 7 degree taper on the
> load face looked like a lot of ticklish code to write so I printed a 7
> degree wedge to put under the spindle motor and raise it 20mm while I
> was at at. Its still there. Bit is a 1/16" RN with 1/4" DOC. Wrote the
> code for that, and have now made 9 screws about 50mm in diameter, with
> 4mm tall buttress threads on double start for a 12mm feed per rev of the
> handle. The screw is hard maple, about 12 threads engage the printed
> nuts for a leg vise screw about 21" long. There is not a similar vice
> making kit on the market at any price.
> 
> Someone needed do it and the only volunteer I could find was me... I
> also made an air compressor strong enough to clear the chips off the
> screw, which if cutting metal can also serve as a mister. 5 little $12
> 12 volt thingy's, so quiet I cannot hear it over the spindle motor.
> Figuring that bit was fragile, I've now made 9 screws and have only
> broken one out of a ten pack.
> 
> It can be done, but its been a 5 year trip so far. Now I'm rebuilding
> much faster 3d printers to make the rest of it, but with only one
> printer, its about 2 weeks a screw to make the rest of it. I'm plowing
> new ground there too with the stepper/servo tech.  Its capable of
> printing a minimum of 5x faster than OOTB.
> 
> So this 6040 mill has a shelf above it with all the electronics on it.
> But I'm running out of time, 40+ years as a DM-II, And now 90 years old.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> --
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> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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