Hi bachew,

we’re glad to hear that you like Empire-db. We really believe it's the best 
thing since sliced bread and we hope more and more people will see the 
advantages.

About the history:
The basic idea, i.e. to describe the data model using classes and objects goes 
back to the middle of the 90's. At that time I was developing document 
management solutions under Windows using C++ and MFC. Back then I wrote the 
first attempt for a relational data persistence layer in C++. 

In 2000 me and my partner founded our company ESTEAM Software now focusing on 
developing Web-based applications in Java. For our first big project I used all 
the ideas from my C++ implementation to build a data persistence layer in Java. 
Since then we have used and improved the library (I don't want to use the word 
'framework' in this context) in many fundamentally different applications such 
as CRM-tools, DataWarehouse utilities, Supply-Chain-Management etc. and for 
both Web and Rich-Client applications. Besides the Java implementation we also 
have a C# implementation; however we have not yet found the time to separate it 
from other stuff and make the necessary refactorings to match it with our Java 
Empire-db. We might do that I we find there is demand for it.

Most applications that we have implemented were relying heavily on data 
gathered from various tables by complex queries with varying constraints and 
joins which are built at runtime. Also as applications and data model change we 
needed something that gives us maximum security that when we change the model 
the application will still work - or the compiler should give us an error. This 
is why we tried to avoid using strings for column or table names completely - 
except for the model definition of course.
This has many times saved our lives and I really can't see how people could 
possibly survive with traditional OR-Mappers except for the simplest type of 
database activity.

Finally about the name:
This is a rather boring story. First, as we had the 'e' for our jsp-tag library 
originally taken from our company name "ESTEAM" we were looking for a name that 
also started with an ‘e’. Second it had to be a simple word as we couldn’t 
think of a suitable idiom. And finally since my kids have made me live in a 
parallel Star Wars universe for the last couple of years “Empire” was the 
closest match. We’re not looking to become as bad as the Galactic Empire 
though. So far we’re only just rebels in the universe of relational data 
persistence. But we’re determined to take on all these Hibernates and JPA 
implementations out there and maybe one day we will make the world a better 
place :-)

The two example applications provided with the core and the web-demo 
application provided with the struts extensions should give you a good idea 
about most of the functionality and how to apply it. However most people when 
starting to use Empire-db make things more complicated than necessary. So if 
you face any difficulties or think there must be a shorter easier way to 
achieve something don’t hesitate to ask.

On the other hand we are curious to hear what kind of solution you have 
implemented with Empire-db.
Best regards


Rainer


bachew wrote on Fr 30.01.2009 03:18
> Re: More history of Empire-db
>  
> Hi,
> The first entry in the FAQ answered part of my question -
> http://incubator.apache.org/empire-db/empiredb/faq.htm. But I would like to
> know more about the history of Empire-db, the people and the organization
> behind this interesting library. How it improves over the years and what
> kinda applications that Empire-db is written for. And erm... why name it
> Empire-db?
> 
> Hard to believe that someone finally did what I have in mind and this
> page<http://incubator.apache.org/empire-db/empiredb/hibernate.htm>explained
> what I always wanted to explain to people. I'm planning to write
> an application framework and it seems my only choice is Empire-db on
> database side, I wish to know more about it.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

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