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Hello Empyeans,This discussion is growing so fast it’s noteasy to keep up! But
I’d like briefly to respond to Margaret and Stirling re: the Williams quote.
While enjoying the headyfeeling of having correctly identified 5/6 human or
machine authors in the nprarticle— But Stirling I like the way you approach
machine or robot intelligenceas artificial, that is, I suppose, a tool. This
seems to make intelligencesomething closer to te military usage of the word as
information. Yet to writepoetry seems to require association, entry into an
as-if world. Perhaps tis iswhere Margaret’s inclusion of gender takes hold, wih
the basic questionreducing down to awareness—maybe even awarness of
intelligence, then , further,to awareness of applications of intelligence. What
awareness, however? Andwhose? Is the robot poem different if created by a
cyborg? Are all robotscyborgs simply because human programming is involved?
Going back to WilliamCarlos Williams, after Margaret’s post I remembered that
the RussianFormalists, especially I think Viktor Shklovski or Shklovsky
considered textsin general but especially poetic texts to be machines. They are
tools, surely, butones made up of series of speech acts (reference Judith
Butler on gender here). Best wishes, Will
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