Greetings Every01!

After some email hiccups, I am now able to post… I've been an -empyre- lurker since the May 2004 criticalartware convo. Since that time, I've confux'd email accounts and rearranged stuff on my side, so, it's been read-only. I've enjoyed checking in on the list over the years and I'm super xcited to be involved with this month's convergence around glitches, GLI.TC/H, gl1tch, and glitch.art. Thnx to Patrick for the invitation/introduction and to every01 who has already dived into conversation… :)


Andreas, I really appreciated our conversation at the opening of the GLI.TC/H gallery-component in Amsterdam. I was nice to meet you F2F after having your Artwork in the 2010 gallery-component in Chicago. Your call for discussing the politics of glitch was timely and warranted… It was an area of discussion that bubbled out of the conference/festival/gathering last year. This year, GLI.TC/H was a monster with many heads (wearing many hats); we were very xcited to install that/those concerns at all locations.

While few of the projects featured in the gallery show this year were overtly political, I do feel that, the very nature of wrangling, nurturing, and causing glitches is political. The gallery-component opening that you attended in AMS was one of many modules; including: lectures, screenings, performances, and workshops. If a glitch is a break in a system, context is key. Therefore, we organize many different contexts to house and encourage glitches. Art is a wonderfully fluid container/meta-context to do this within and the project/mission driven DIY/DIT spaces we partnered with were had less in common with institutional death-stars and more in common with makers.

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:19:03 +0100, IR3ABF wrote:
Connecing glitch with art will do glitch not any good, and thereby is
loosing the possible break with an outdated, insufficient and most of
all, elitist art concept.

If we are organizing/playing with situations/moments that cause ruptures/slippages within contexts/systems, then we need to be constantly aware of the systems we are in. I find this a very fun place to experiment and break with outdated/outmoded concepts/frameworks. As organizers of GLI.TC/H and as practitioners at large, we go to great lengths to combat elitism, cultivate openness, make events free, and address glitches in different manifestations.

"The community is growing and this year we are hoping (and planning) to do it again! From the beginning, we consciously adopted a free & open ethic for GLI.TC/H. We believe that exorbitant entrance fees and exclusive passes create obstacles between "actor" and "audience." " - from the GLI.TC/H 20111 Kickstarter Campaign (SEPT 2011)

For me, the FB Occupy link to the (assumed article or conversation) reads:

This content is currently unavailable
The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page.

This is a pertinent blip/hiccup/glitch that points to the private structures that contemporary revolutionary communication relies on. I am left in a moment wondering: "was it a bad link" or "was it intentionally taken down for some reason"… It makes me also think of that account where someone screen-captured a chunk of FB code a few years ago exposing some of the tracking algorithms FB developed for the police… oh man… it's in a deadtree somewhere here… I'll post it, if I can find it…

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:19:03 +0100, IR3ABF wrote:
So corresponding to the occupy movement, the lack of a recognizable
and outwardly directed and actively pronounced *political* point of
view, can easily result in a misunderstanding and a falsifying
conception of its underlying premisses

I think the "lack of a recognizable and outwardly directed and actively pronounced POV" is where the Occupy Movement shines. The original Adbusters call for the gathering was for the occupiers to come up with one demand. If they had done that… it would have been the end of it… I'm absolutely willing to risk misunderstandings in a dirty, murky world, if a group of folks can safely navigate openness and fuel a conversation/project/moment through participation.

By no means is glitch.art comparable to a movement like Occupy, but there are interesting threads to tease out... After all, it took a few really large economic glitches to expose the corrupt system to folks.


Best,
jon.s

http://jonsatrom.com
http://selectall.org
http://gli.tc/h

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:19:03 +0100, IR3ABF wrote:
Hi Rosa

thanks for your interesting reply,

I remember in a conversation with John Satrom during glitch Amsterdam,
where I posed the same question about the supposedly lack of politics
in things glitch related, I offered the example of my personal and
dissented - because not sanctioned by the general assembly- action on
Occupy Amsterdam.

(http://www.facebook.com/media/set/set=a.10150400659812355.360211.732517354&type=1&l=ab83175229
[44])

I think politics comes creeping in when there is not a *shared*
safeguard in protecting some potentially promisseful developments in
perceiving our lived environment - with all its imperfections and
*bad* behaviours - from the gloomy and dark, slimy fingers of
*commodification*, resulting in the obvious *domestication* and the
positioning of it into the well established *fetishized* art world,
and where it will be just another vehicle in maintaining its - the art
world's - deadly grip.

Just as you rightfully expressed its *freshness* is prone to
exploitation and possibly quickly gaining an impact which is able to
just stop its *own* fluidal development.

So corresponding to the occupy movement, the lack of a recognizable
and outwardly directed and actively pronounced *political* point of
view, can easily result in a misunderstanding and a falsifying
conception of its underlying premisses

Connecing glitch with art will do glitch not any good, and thereby is
loosing the possible break with an outdated, insufficient and most of
all, elitist art concept.

In which part of society will glitch be of value except for a small
number of people sharing a common interest in playfully disrupting
technological achievements? And what are the benefits for the people
not being part of it?

Will it develop into another 'ism', fed by institutionalized
theoreticians and popularized by its youtfullness and freshness or
will it function as a means to break the underlying world building
rules and do away with our preoccupation with societal and techno
oriented *hygiene*?

Mcluhanistic naivety combined with a US dominated visual art
conception will in due time eradicate every possible trace of
authenticity, replacing it with its commodified merchandazible fetish
derivate.

Andreas Maria Jacobs

"A corrupt Society, produces corrupt Art"

http://burgerwaanzin.nl [45] (anti-art)
http://nictoglobe.com [46] (art magzaine)

Sent from my eXtended BodY

On 4 dec. 2011, at 21:30, Rosa Menkman  wrote:

Andreas, thank you for bringing up the issues of politics and
societal consequences. I think these are to definitely very
important subjects concerning glitch (art) but also very big - just
throwing them around makes me worried of them becoming empty
concepts (this year we actually organized a panel on glitch politics
and I really liked it but also felt it could do with some
-preliminary- conclusions) I would like to try to get one step
closer to that conversation now.

For the last years and especially during the organizing of the
festival and the writing of my little book on glitch theory, (which
is downloadable from here [26]) I have been looking for ways to
create or talk about glitch theory/practice-frameworks.

glitch = break in a system
glitch = a fingerprint of a technology
But... what is glitch art?

What other subjects are there to explore, or organize within these
frameworks, and do I really want to set them apart or organize them?
What are the dangers of writing these things out? Is it the end of
the protocol? (no!)

I feel that the problems of defining _glitch_, _glitch art_ (and
possibly _GLI.TC/H)_ and their roles within glitch art communities
are complex. While glitch is mostly technologically defined, glitch
art takes the _technological occurrence_ of a glitch to another,
_more social _or_ metaphorical level._
In GLI.TC/H the festival/gathering/conference we try to reflect on
these problems (that also have to do with authority, hierarchy
within organizing, etc). We try to create an open, fluid space for
the communities that struggle or work within these perspectives and
provide a meeting place for conversation about classic subjects
surrounding these communities, like politics, media archeology and
aesthetics. But I believe we also try to capture the 'fresher'
conversations related to glitch art (glitch art and its
practitioners are, for good and for bad, very prone to a freshness
fetish).
Last year the festival focussed on a very particular change within
the glitch communities, namely the commodification and
standardization of glitch; the domestication of certain glitch
effects. There were many motivations for this, but a very specific
one was the rise (and demise?) of datamoshing, on which I wrote a
blogpost [27]a while back and on which the chapter "From Artifact
to Commodity" of my book (as mentioned above) and the exhibition
Filtering Failure [28] reflected.
This year I feel there has been a general movement towards text,
vernacular or language based glitch art. A good example for this
shift was for instance Curt Cloningers GltchLnguistx [29] and the
following presentation he did during the panel, to which Curt linked
before [30] (00:16:30-00:46:00) + http://lab404.com/glitch11.pdf
[31] , or the growing amount of largely text related glitch-facebook
groups, the resurrection of Zalgo and works like Anthony Antonellis'
Impulse 101 [32] and A Bill Millers Glitched Ascii Art, the
Gridworks series [33].
I wonder if this is a general trend in digital arts, or if this is
something more specific to glitch art practices?

I also wonder what politics (is there a difference between
P/politics?) means, within the perspectives of glitch (art
communities) - I know what Nick Briz would say: It is a fluid
concept made by the communities. However, I am always looking for
more specific definitions, shelves and frameworks so we can break
them later and find new glitches.
If we are afraid to define something beyond it being fluid - how can
we still believe in a future for glitch?
Warmly,
Rosa

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On Dec 4, 2011, at 8:17 PM, IR3ABF wrote:

do not need to be (irritated), it are the tidal waves of
internests ever undulating search for the renovation and
rebuilding of its own flawed fundamentals

what I do miss are the politcal and societal consequences it needs
to expose, for now it is merely based on a *dirty* and *speedy*
aesthetics and lacking substance and contemplation, but its
alleged freshness and playfullness could eventually develop into
something more sustainable and less volatile

for a previous FB discussion see:




http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/20110816/022380.html
[22]

Andreas Maria Jacobs

http://nictoglobe.com [23]

Sent from my eXtended BodY

2011/12/3 GLI.TC/H [18]

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distribution. GLI.TC/H [2] the 20111
conference/festival/gathering, which has reached end of line
[EOL].

GLI.TC/H [3] was exe.cuted in Chicago US from: NOV 3 - 6;
Amsterdam NL from: NOV 11 & 12; and Birmingham UK on NOV 19.
Modules included: lectures, workshops, performances,
screenings and gallery worx. The bots are initiating routines
to reflect and absorb GLI.TC/H [4] as a whole and how it
interfaces, supports, and shares within/around the glitch.art
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Thnx to Patrick and every01 for the invitation to
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[28] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17713740/Filtering%20Failure.pdf
[29] http://lab404.com/glitch/
[30] http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18328047
[31] http://lab404.com/glitch11.pdf
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