Hi Joe,

Thanks for the clarifications and for the changes at: 
https://github.com/emu-wg/charter/pull/5/files. This look good to me.

Sent you right now a review with some nitty things.

Cheers,
Med

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Envoyé : mercredi 4 juin 2025 04:46
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <[email protected]>
Cc : The IESG <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]
Objet : Re: Mohamed Boucadair's No Objection on charter-ietf-emu-07-00: (with 
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Please find some minor comments:

# (nit) The charter uses different styles to cite RFCs: "The Extensible
Authentication Protocol (EAP) [RFC 3748]" vs "TLS in RFC 8446" "RFC 7258 notes"
vs "the EDHOC mechanism (RFC 9528)", etc. Likewise, the charter uses different
styles for expanding: "Out-of-band (OOB)" vs. "EDHOC (Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman
Over COSE)". Please use a consistent style.
Yes this should be made consistent.

# Some RFC citations will be stale soon (e.g., RFC 8446). Maybe better to
soften the use of the RFC labels.

yea I'm not sure what the best practice is here.  References help people find 
the references to the work, but they will become stale.

# Maybe get rid of some examples inherited from the OLD charter

Yes I think we should remove some of the old items.  Here is a PR that removes 
things that have left the working group. 
https://github.com/emu-wg/charter/pull/5/files


CURRENT:
 As an example, IETF has standardized a new and improved version..

# Other than 3GPP and VPN that are already from the OLD charter
("authentication framework used, for instance, in VPN and mobile network"),
what are the new cases referred to in this part:

CURRENT:
  some new use cases for EAP have been identified

# Keep sync with 3GPP updates and PFS

Just out of curiosity, is "extension to EAP-AKA' for providing PFS" work coming
(requested) from the 3GPP?
I believe it is part of a 3GPP work item.  Perhaps someone from the working 
group can shed more light.  I believe the work may have started in the IETF and 
then became part of the 3GPP work.

BTW, the main text promises working on an "extension to EAP-AKA' for providing
PFS", but this is not listed in the summary & milestones.

This work has already been submitted to the IESG.


# Stale References

draft-ietf-oauth-device-flow-13 is already published as RFC8628


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