-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Nico,
before I forget (long answers): I HIGHLY appreciate your efforts and to NOT want to put you down in any way. Just trying to help ... > it is reset to state an email would have without forcing ... not common > case ... not provided via status bar icons ... we could make it an advanced > item yes, that's what I vote for since i fear it clutters the "simple" UI too much. > The resulting UI is the best I found to deal with that. Go ahead - if others, esp. Patrick, are fine with it! > I can send you a excel sheet if you are interested I vote to document this on the website. Transparency is vital here. One can always point to that reference if discussion arises again. I can put up a page if you provide me with text (Excel is OK if I can use the text for the table as-is (should be made self explanatory). Please enclose Text for above/below the table - and a heading. Send to me directly. If you have access, you may also do that page yourself. > new default for the ordinary user: enc off but auto encrypt if keys valid > This is so simple and easy to use so that I bet that 90% of users will use > this mode. And usually even experts need no or only a few rules. YES > But something must always be possible: Finally manually force to > encrypt/sign I don't think that this even should be possible in simple mode. > or not to encrypt/sign OK, maybe along with possibility to "remeber that decision" (creation of a rule) > This is nothing we can skip in any mode. Hmmm. KISS! > This is feedback I got already from people trying out the new features (and > BTW, this is also what GPGTools provides for Apple). I'm not telling what you/they say is wrong, just trying to not only think along trodden paths. > Even beginners always have to be able to disable encryption explicitly if > it is automatically selected. Agreed. > The rest is what I programmed without the ability to switch to expert mode > (we already have basic and expert mode, we don't need one more confusion You may have misunderstood me: I'm talking about these "basic and expert" modes from OpenPGP settings! > As I wrote, this is disabled in the non-expert mode now. +1, we'll see what user feedback is. > But you are right, whether PGP/mime should be default and whether HTML > should be enabled by default is indeed something we should discuss. We must! > Now, there is a much cleaner model: ... Again, go ahead! > - I did discuss all changes with Patrick, directly. So, he knows. Cool. Then I'm 100% fine with it! > - One problem is that what you propose takes too long. I know. I'd also travel to a workshop if we do stuff like this! > Thus, you have to "look&feel" a UI to see whether it works. Agreed. > You will be able to try things out on the master pretty soon Looking forward to it! > BUT: If I really go into the wrong overall direction, THEN we should > discuss that. As you discussed this wit Patrick, I'm sure you won't end up in a dead end. > Please allow me to chose that mode for fast necessary improvements. DEFINITELY! > I showed it at a conference in Oslo last week in front of 40 people. They > really liked it (and found stuff to improve). Cool! Had a great time there, then? > I am happy to provide a xpi file to test it, now. I don't have dev tools installed on my machine. But I am very happy to wait until you announce the next nightly we should test. BTW, you can always contact me directy, I'm sure you'll find suitable contact data and means :-) Olav - -- The Enigmail Project - OpenPGP Email Security For Mozilla Applications -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Dies ist eine elektronische Signatur - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQGcBAEBAwAGBQJTlHXaAAoJEKGX32tq4e9Wq9AL/itJtaOjZ3vIaOmJ6o9gOAsS OYn4IDUCekeojKkXjpWFa3J+dc1QP5RMbUbONX7x8mDBzSybjGXFGqm0q150rewd 9r5KfLjDHsTw1bHrrAqXejxcJE/mtZHR+NW+4OTKF9eyeQx0gS41cbRJbmobIhhX ScvQYXRqxdyxXKH8qMjqZGLSsX/iBT22exLAcPniCoo2IJ2o9iK8rNghozy3Y4br e0gmYTez4+AQktsYSQCxmzWJuV/rc1ehAUFz8WtekyG9MN0cHcnMvELQ9yo1fceF IOaGp8i5aLnD0tablwiNqHpM8yy/3EaReMvJi+CbrU1uadPBxKtsKSCSbsVDu5Vj 0EkRm1cCRYhIUGS9kM9AATe4pi19v4M4TukZ41hTtWs+sgbk824nRbSB2ibcOrg+ jXLiH+mm5/FSp5S1Ju2EO8Pxg/otUM1B/Zb5pdwzuR/VnZu1chVSj6j0Wyf66Xey EDqUPpjCKqvllMlUBwgNstRj2d05SlUi3dxaoU7/8A== =slpt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net