On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:06:54 -0500 Jose O Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: (B (B> > and i've been adding evas objects too (textblock) just to make life (B> > more fun for (B> > you :) (B> > (B> (B> Ahhh.. and something simple too.. text/fonts related :) (B (Byes! text and font rendering, layout is nice and simple! i love its simplicity (Band cleanliness, lack of exceptions and complex rules. it's great! (B (B(if you can't read the sarcasm... you need a better mailer) :) (B (B> > the summary of much of it is "we are moving to a rendering system (B> > that doesn't (B> > just draw - but composites with alpha blending and scaling and image (B> > filters and (B> > effects" - i.e. - evas/edje - what we already have. and "oh we are (B> > going to do (B> > it hardware accelerated - but no good software fallbacks" - i.e. (B> > evas + gl (B> > engine - just no software eninge. (B> > "oh we are going to be able to do all sorts of funky themes and (B> > effects now" - (B> > err.. == edje. everything they talk about as (B> > amazing/new/groundbreaking... we (B> > have done. :) well most of it :) "lets build our widget set on top (B> > of a canvas (B> > object system" - EWL anyone? :) for everything they talk of.. we are (B> > already (B> > there... pioneering it - quietly in a corner :) (B> > (B (Bi actually addressed some of it on rasterman.com last night. (B (B> Ummm... That does seem to be the thrust of it.. though there was (B> also mention of a "window-compositing manager" -- which of course has (B> nothing (B> to do with E. (B (Be16 does this actually- includes a composite manager. we will with e17 when (Bxrender stops sucking :) (B (B> But somehow, it sounds like so much more..? (B (Bit isn't. its really simple stuff :) (B (B> There was this quote though from the second link: (B> "..Everyone is working on the ability to do OS X or Enlightenment style (B> effects.." (B (Bso are we! wait. we ARE enlightenment... :) that's our job! :) (B (B> Maybe you should take take a few minutes sometime and *write down* (B> your ideas and some details on them.. some diagrams and stuff, etc. :) (B (Bsee rasterman.com - see the videos... edje already can do a chunk of these... (Bits inherent in the design. we just need more actual examples. text isn't (Benough. you need live, moving, living gfx to demo it. :) (B (B> > they have apps, communities, publicity and big, mature toolkits and (B> > everyone (B> > thinks they are trying to "kill microsoft" so they all rally behind (B> > them. (B> (B> Ok. But, the apps and stuff may follow from a 'mature toolkit'.. (B> So what is it about their toolkits that is so much more 'mature'? (B> (B> Who out there would like to spell this out in detail -- (B> What do the EFL's need in order to be as 'mature'? (B (BEWL needs more widgets - to the point where it has the same complement of (Bwidgets you see in qt and gtk+. they need to be fast and rock-solid. stable. it (Bneeds to support right-to-left languages for text and much better text layout. (Bit needs more documentation and examples. (B (B (B-- (B------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- (BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] $BMg9%B?(B [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BTokyo, Japan ($BEl5~(B $BF|K\(B) (B (B (B------------------------------------------------------- (BSF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide (BRead honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. (BDiscover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. (Bhttp://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click (B_______________________________________________ (Benlightenment-devel mailing list ([email protected] (Bhttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
