On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 03:22:39PM +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Brian writes: > > > > To me the main issue is not really a 'technical' one pre se, > > > it's do people really want, and want to help with, such changes? > > > > > > > Right now, I think the response you're going to get from most of > > us is: "Wait until e17 is out the door." Evas may have issues, but, > > our main focus at this time is getting a long awaited product > > released and in the wild. > > > > However, this does mean that Evas will also be "in the wild", > > making drastic API changes more painful on end users of the > > library. So, maybe we should prioritize the changes (premul > > seems a higher up candidate). > > > > The only api 'change' that I know of anyone having in mind > is the change to premul semantics. But as far as large or radical > api changes, evas has already had some.. eg. the textblock. > Part of the benefit of having loadable object types is to > minimize the need for such things happening. But mostly it's to > provide a better base on which to build - to build apps, not to > fiddle with the lib for the hell of it. If people don't understand > this then I don't know what to tell you.
I realize this. I never said anything about "lib fiddling" :) I totally agree that evas needs some work. I would love true loadable objects with a well defined interface so we can more easily extend things. All I'm saying is that we have very little dev power to divy up between everything that needs doing. > > > I just don't think that we should take what little dev time we > > have and suck it into overhauling evas (which, unfortunately, > > is 'good enough' for our current purposes). > > Then it's likely not going to happen and will thus stay > 'good enough' until deemed otherwise. A concensus needs to be > reached on what needs work and what doesn't.. it can't be carried > or be decided on by one person alone, wether it be me or Carsten > or whomever.. Some things can be done here and there, but major > work needs more than that. > I think we need to get e17 out, and THEN bump this up to top priority. (With the exception of pre-mul, which, due to the API shift, should probably be done before any evas release). However, that said, we're a pretty unguided mass of transient coders, with different goals and desires. Maybe its just my lack of familiarity with evas internals that forms my opinion. :) rephorm. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel