On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:36 +0100 Essien Ita Essien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Essien Ita Essien wrote: > > Eugen Minciu wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:31:04 +0900 > >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My entrance is built on September 11th and I don't have this problem. > >> > >> Hope this helps you narrow it down. > >> > >> > > Ok... found it after a few minutes of poking around web-cvs. > > > > Actually, the problem came in with the shell utilization patches... > > http://e.kevb.net/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/e17/apps/entrance/src/client/entrance_session.c?r1=1.85&r2=1.86&sortby=date > > > > Now that I've identified it. It will be fixed soonest. > > > all fixed now. > > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ > COMMAND > 1955 root 15 0 6952 1936 1528 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.04 > entranced > 16418 root 16 0 2008 712 576 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.80 > entrance_login > 16429 essiene 16 0 18532 8064 724 S 0.0 1.6 0:00.00 > entrance > 16430 essiene 15 0 23592 17m 4260 S 0.0 3.4 0:05.05 > enlightenment > > booyaa!! > > I'll be more carefull in reviewing patches in future. actually not all fixed. 1 entrance process floating around. there's no need for it to hang about like a bad smell. :) i am pretty damn sure that when i fixed it before entrance spawned off the user's login session then REPLACED itself with entrance_login so it became small and unobtrusive. there were not 2 entrances and entrance became entrance_login :) i'm pretty damn sure that's how it was... :) > Cheers, > Essien > > Cheers, > > Essien > > > >>> OK - a quick check today: > >>> > >>> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND > >>> 4183 root 15 0 79712 28m 5216 S 0 2.9 0:35.94 Xorg > >>> 9385 raster 15 0 106m 21m 11m S 0 2.1 0:03.04 sylpheed > >>> 4189 root 16 0 65112 13m 3060 S 0 1.3 0:04.72 entrance > >>> 4600 raster 16 0 65112 11m 704 S 0 1.1 0:00.00 entrance > >>> 4601 raster 15 0 70988 9604 3984 S 0 0.9 1:50.63 enlightenm > >>> 4168 root 16 0 41956 1248 860 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 entranced > >>> > >>> ... now yes - i know how top and ps can lie - BUT, i only now JUST > >>> noticed - someone has removed my work of using entrance_login. ie > >>> entranced spawns (and manages) X and entrance (entrance is the gui front > >>> end). when you authenticate > >>> - entrance runs the login session. in order to make sure that when your > >>> login ends everything is cleaned up login-wise, entrance_login sits and > >>> waits for the user's login to end. entrance_login is small - it uses no > >>> efl libs. it is intended to be so small as to use very little ram while > >>> you are logged in. this seems to have been thrown out the window now with > >>> entrance spawning 2 incarnations of itself and just siting around hogging > >>> stale unused memory that will eventually need to be swapped out - while a > >>> user is logged in. > >>> > >>> why was this removed? why suddenly consume about 20MB worth of resident > >>> pages of ram when this is really not needed? just exec() entrance_login > >>> so it replaces the entrance process with a brand new one that has no > >>> allocated memory, fragmented pages etc. if any housekeeping needs to be > >>> added - add it to entrance_login and pass it in via cmd-line, stdin or > >>> something. as it stands entrance is hogging a huge amount of memory for > >>> no useful purpose. entranced should stick around - and really - it's not > >>> fat at all (400k of resident pages or so). look at the above - > >>> enlightenment is leaner than entrance - by < 50% mem use. and entrance > >>> should be doing NOTHING - it should be idle and consuming basically no > >>> resources as it's only waiting for my login session to end. > >>> > >>> now - this brings me to my point. people need to think about what they are > >>> patching and changing - not just in terms of features, but what they might > >>> break, destroy and then bloat-up. this isn't gnome people. we CARE about > >>> resource usage. if you are going to use ram or cpu - do it for a reason - > >>> get something out of it (functionality, prettiness, etc.) but profile > >>> your work - check its memory usage, check its process spawning - do the > >>> processes go away? so you leave them hanging around consuming precious > >>> ram and/or cpu. > >>> > >>> pay attention to the details. details make the difference between a $1 > >>> piece of plastic imitation junk churned out by a chinese factory and a > >>> masterpiece of craftsmanship. > >>> > >>> i am sorry to have to say this - but i'm disappointed to see lax work like > >>> this. :( > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > >>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> 裸好多 > >>> Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Take Surveys. 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