On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:52:01 +0200 muzzle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> On 7/23/07, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:25:35 +1000 Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > babbled:
> >
> > > Greetings.
> > >
> > > I'm looking at buying a 2nd-hand PDA from Ebay, and I remember some
> > > posts, news items, etc about E17 running on various PDAs.
> > >
> > > Is it at all feasible that I ( as a non-C-developer ) would be able to
> > > get E17 running on a PDA? If so, which ones do people recommend? Is
> > > there a particular CPU family, product line, or such that I should stick
> > > to?
> >
> > should work on any of them - almost all pda's are ARM based anyway. as for
> > more important requirements - you'll need one that can or does run linux
> > and X11. other than that - e should be able to be built and work. works on
> > my n800 with some futzing and removing of the original hildon gui launching
> > scripts. problem is that its a desktop wm on a pda - all the text is tiny
> > and the ui is centered around a desktop (kbd + mouse) metaphor - of course
> > that can be changed/improved, but really its a novelty, not a "real usable"
> > ui for pda's right now. the point is - the same code "just works" on these
> > devices. no porting needed. what is needed is ui customisation for such
> > environments.
> >
> > [...]
> 
> Hi raster, hi list,
> could you please summarize the the general status of e17 for embedded?
> Is anyone still working on eem?

eem was nothing more than a demo app - and that's it. e17 works on my n800 for
example - and my zaurus c400. it works. but it's a desktop wm.

> Is there some embedded distribution interested in using efl to build
> their graphic environment (I think angstrom was considering ea e17
> environment)?
> 
> [about angstrom and e17
> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
> http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24237&st=0&p=164177&#entry164177
> ]

don't know. i don't really have time to keep up.

> I remember seeing something on evas and gtk-framebuffer. Was it just
> an intellectual challenge or is somebody working on an embedded
> environment that uses e17 and gtk on a framebuffer?

you can't. e17 is a wm - it needs X to run. that's what wm's are - they arw X
centric processes.

> There are possibly tons of e17-on-embedded spinoffs that I forgot, can
> you add those you know of?

i don't really track them all :(

> Cheers,
> 
> Emme
> 
> 
> PS
> I remember a few post on the ml from people looking for hints on
> using/developing e17 in an embedded environment. There are probably
> quite a few people scattered around that are have been thinking about
> e17 for this kind of systems, shouldn't there be at least a page in
> the e17 wiki, to keep track of those people and projects?

possibly - the wiki is open to be expanded :)

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The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本)

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