On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 15:33 -0500, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Jorge Luis Zapata Muga > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You're going to completely ignore all of the feedback you received on > >> this issue and just change the license without a consensus? > >> > > > > Ok, let's begin on *how* i see this. > > > > Eina suddenly has gotten attention, not because of its technical > > features, but because i wanted it to be lpgl *and* raster has said > > that he wants to push eina's effort. That's the real thing, nobody > > cared about it on the past two years until cedric was interested and > > pushed it into proto and pfritz did the string thing. Nobody. Raster > > has expressed his will on that library, so what happens? everyone is > > going to love eina because of that? if that's the case this is not a > > community is a herd. > > Wrong, it got attention because you started working with people to get > it into CVS and operate as part of the project. Nothing to do with the > license. Cedric may have been interested because it was LGPL, but most > people I know of are interested because we can finally remove some > redundant API's. Why don't you ask Peter since he's the other one you > mention making some effort on it? > > > The license "issue" is not really an issue, if the problem is because > > ewl/ecore might be lpgl, that statement is totally wrong, you already > > know that, you can keep the license you want and in fact you will, > > there's no need to make other projects use eina, but the ones i'll > > commit later will use it and also be lgpl. If the problem is because > > all e projects should be bsd, then again, that would make sense on a > > project where everything is shared among the developers and the > > development which again is not the case. Basically e cvs is a > > repository where anyone can do whatever he wants because such thing as > > "consensus" doesnt exist, but not only at license level but on *any* > > level. > > You are misquoting this argument. The argument is we can't easily > inter-change code with LGPL because it's now a one way relationship. > We can only put things INTO eina because if we take anything out, we > have to use the LGPL or GPL. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't eina a library? Why do you need to take something out of it? 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